What a Brake!!!
#1
I decided to put the new brake shoes on the KQ today after getting home from work. Bad idea, it took three hours and was getting dark when I finished. I only did the back brake! Should have been done in an hour the most but I disassembled, reassembled, dis and re again. The problem was, early last year, I couldn't get the brake to adjust and remain usable. I decided to pull off the brake lever, behide the wheel and move it one spline backward to make the brake work better. That worked but I didn't plan to put the lever back in it's original possition when it was time to change the shoes. I forgot I even did that alteration. I think the reason I didn't think of it right away, is because I thought the cable had streched and it would be fine once I moved the lever. Next time, I'm just going to buy new shoes. But those shoes certainly don't last very long. Are any of you having that problem?
Chuck
Chuck
#2
I had that problem on my KQ and brother John had the same problem on his KQ.If you mud exstensivly with the King,the rear drum seals will leak in water/debree as you probably allready know?
You will run out of adjustment on your brake cable and the rear shoes will still have plenty of braking material left on it to funtion,so thats why I told you to set the rear brake arm one notch from the norm and then re-adjust your cable again,the shoes still had useable materail left on them.
Your also correct,when you go to re-install new shoes,the arm must be set back to the factory setting,or the drum does not want to go back on.I cant really understand why Suzuki uses a cable set-up design in the rear for?They have know for YEARS that the brakes drum seals leak badly and still go with the same set-up.Now,its not a problem if you stay out of the serious mud/water,but not many owners of 4x4 ATVs can do that,except for Eric I think?
Bill
You will run out of adjustment on your brake cable and the rear shoes will still have plenty of braking material left on it to funtion,so thats why I told you to set the rear brake arm one notch from the norm and then re-adjust your cable again,the shoes still had useable materail left on them.
Your also correct,when you go to re-install new shoes,the arm must be set back to the factory setting,or the drum does not want to go back on.I cant really understand why Suzuki uses a cable set-up design in the rear for?They have know for YEARS that the brakes drum seals leak badly and still go with the same set-up.Now,its not a problem if you stay out of the serious mud/water,but not many owners of 4x4 ATVs can do that,except for Eric I think?
Bill
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OH NO,
this trip is NOT just to see what BILLS ATV can do and to watch ME get stuck.You see,YOU and ERIC are going to get involved in the mud too.This way,if I dont make it,at least you guys can say you tried it to and did'nt suceed either,and I can pull you guys out to.This trip is not all about ragging on my ATV when I get stuck while you guys sit and WATCH and stay clean.I fully expect you guys to attempt the SAME holes that I do or there will be very little mudding on my behalf.
And I aint LEADING all the time either!
Bill
this trip is NOT just to see what BILLS ATV can do and to watch ME get stuck.You see,YOU and ERIC are going to get involved in the mud too.This way,if I dont make it,at least you guys can say you tried it to and did'nt suceed either,and I can pull you guys out to.This trip is not all about ragging on my ATV when I get stuck while you guys sit and WATCH and stay clean.I fully expect you guys to attempt the SAME holes that I do or there will be very little mudding on my behalf.
And I aint LEADING all the time either!
Bill
#6
Chuck,
How many miles did you get on your brakes? I've got 1867 miles on my 93 KQ's original brakes. I checked the fronts yesterday and I'll probably go in at 2000mi, maybe a bit sooner. The rear brake feels pretty good still, some slack in the cable,not too much. I've been through plenty of deep mud here in the wet nw but I prefer technically challenging trails. I've never experienced brake problems. I'm curious as to what kind of mileage other KQ owners are getting from their brakes.
John
How many miles did you get on your brakes? I've got 1867 miles on my 93 KQ's original brakes. I checked the fronts yesterday and I'll probably go in at 2000mi, maybe a bit sooner. The rear brake feels pretty good still, some slack in the cable,not too much. I've been through plenty of deep mud here in the wet nw but I prefer technically challenging trails. I've never experienced brake problems. I'm curious as to what kind of mileage other KQ owners are getting from their brakes.
John
#7
Zukimoto, this is the second set of shoes on the back of my KQ. The first set lasted about 500 miles. I have just over 1000 miles now and this makes the #3 set on the back. I've never replaced the front before now. I normally use the back brake for stopping. When I use the hydraulics, I'm usually in trouble... :0)
You may have a different material for brakes. Can you tell me what that is? These look like they're asbestos but I can't confirm that until I look at the box. I'll post again later if I can indeed find out what these are made of.
00KING, the H/M Trails are in West Virginia, in the southwestern corner of the state. There have been many post here about how great they are so I went there to take a look for myself on my way to NC. Didn't get to ride then but I was very impressed with the terrain. After several of us here conversed about it, we decide to make it a trip for this year.
Go to "trailsheaven.com" and see for yourself what it's about. If you decide to go, don't plan to ride alone. The authorities want you to ride in groups. Go to the heading "Where to ride", in this forum to see what others have to say. Somebody always have something to say about the H/M Trails after they've been there. I'm sure, I'll have a couple of words too, after we get back.
Chuck
You may have a different material for brakes. Can you tell me what that is? These look like they're asbestos but I can't confirm that until I look at the box. I'll post again later if I can indeed find out what these are made of.
00KING, the H/M Trails are in West Virginia, in the southwestern corner of the state. There have been many post here about how great they are so I went there to take a look for myself on my way to NC. Didn't get to ride then but I was very impressed with the terrain. After several of us here conversed about it, we decide to make it a trip for this year.
Go to "trailsheaven.com" and see for yourself what it's about. If you decide to go, don't plan to ride alone. The authorities want you to ride in groups. Go to the heading "Where to ride", in this forum to see what others have to say. Somebody always have something to say about the H/M Trails after they've been there. I'm sure, I'll have a couple of words too, after we get back.
Chuck
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