Quick question re: stator pickup coil
#31
Man this still sounds like the same symptoms old D-Ray found,but if the flywheel magnets are in good shape and you're positive on the stator,then could either be in the left control switch(since you replaced the ignition switch) or an internal wiring harness short. I've had to replace many harnesses also,not mainly from shorts but from field mice that loved to eat plastic. Not that hard of a job if you just work from the rear to the front and disconnect one thing at a time while moving the old harness out of the way. If you can't find the problem in the left switch or it's wiring,then I'm down to that. Beyond that stick me with a fork,I'm done.. Plus I did look back on some old posts on you repairing stator wiring. Perchance you might recheck this area.
#32
#33
Hey Dammar; funny that you mentioned that. Yesterday, as I stood looking at the ATV totally disgusted, I thought about putting another ground to the frame. I think I did this 7 years ago when I had problems before. If I remember correctly, I used a jumper cable! LOL!!! It didn't help then, but perhaps it will help this time????? (I'll do it the proper way this time!)
I just remembered somethinhg about how it ran on Friday. I was starting up the hill in my backyard. Normal throttle pressure and moving along nicely. Then, without giving it more throttle, it sped up like it got better spark or something. Anyone have an idea.. does this help to diagnose the problem?
Jackie (still scratching her head)
#34
Man this still sounds like the same symptoms old D-Ray found,but if the flywheel magnets are in good shape and you're positive on the stator,then could either be in the left control switch(since you replaced the ignition switch) or an internal wiring harness short. I've had to replace many harnesses also,not mainly from shorts but from field mice that loved to eat plastic. Not that hard of a job if you just work from the rear to the front and disconnect one thing at a time while moving the old harness out of the way. If you can't find the problem in the left switch or it's wiring,then I'm down to that. Beyond that stick me with a fork,I'm done.. Plus I did look back on some old posts on you repairing stator wiring. Perchance you might recheck this area.
I use this ATV to plow my driveway and to bring firewood over to the house, it's never been a toy, just a working machine. I know it's old, but it runs great (when it runs LOL!!) and really helps me here in Northern NY (40 miles from Canada) You mentioned mice.. well, I have mice AND red squirrels that love to play in the woodshed where the ATV is usually parked. HHhhmmmm..........
Jackie ( holding a gallon of gas and a match!)
#35
[QUOTE=AdirondackGal;3314024]You mean to tell me, you didn't hear me screaming last night? It still is messed up, however, it does start more often and run for longer periods of time. In fact, I took it for a ride last night and it ran great! But, I just knew it was too good to be true! This morning, it started and died, started and died, many times, then suddenly it sprang to life and kept running for about 30 minutes. I shut it off, came in the house for a little while, went back out, and it won't start again. Apparently it isn't the CDI, huh? GGgrrrrrrrr!!!! Before I shut it down, I flexed every wire on the thing and it never faultered.
Oh, when I went outside for a few minutes last night,,,that screaming I heard was you?. Sorry the CDI fix it for you. As someone else had mentioned, intermittant problems are the worst one can have. I see that you have done the AC volts test on the stator, did you do the resistance ckecks on the stator and pick up coil? And as another mentioned, have you checked/cleaned all grounds?
Oh, when I went outside for a few minutes last night,,,that screaming I heard was you?. Sorry the CDI fix it for you. As someone else had mentioned, intermittant problems are the worst one can have. I see that you have done the AC volts test on the stator, did you do the resistance ckecks on the stator and pick up coil? And as another mentioned, have you checked/cleaned all grounds?
#36
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Yes, I have done resistance checks on the stator throughout this entire time. I always wondered why the test results were changing, but still within the limits of the manual. Today, I cleaned grounds, took the left handlebar switch assembly apart (quite an adventure BTW!), and reohmed wires. The entire time, this thing wouldn't even fire once. Tonight, a neighbor came by and I showed him how this ATV would crank and had no spark. It STARTED!!!! REALLY????? It started and died twice. Then absolutely NOTHING. I immediately checked the stator resistances again, and they were fine. However... the three yellow wires were a different story. They ohmed out fine, but showed continuity to ground! Something is grounding out in the stator windings, right? Apparently, changes in temperatures affect the stator and when it's open, the ATV starts, and when it's grounded..... NO SPARK.
Does this all make sense, or am I just hoping there is an end to all of this?
Jackie ( who is getting very tired testing this thing!)
You mean to tell me, you didn't hear me screaming last night? It still is messed up, however, it does start more often and run for longer periods of time. In fact, I took it for a ride last night and it ran great! But, I just knew it was too good to be true! This morning, it started and died, started and died, many times, then suddenly it sprang to life and kept running for about 30 minutes. I shut it off, came in the house for a little while, went back out, and it won't start again. Apparently it isn't the CDI, huh? GGgrrrrrrrr!!!! Before I shut it down, I flexed every wire on the thing and it never faultered.
Oh, when I went outside for a few minutes last night,,,that screaming I heard was you?. Sorry the CDI fix it for you. As someone else had mentioned, intermittant problems are the worst one can have. I see that you have done the AC volts test on the stator, did you do the resistance ckecks on the stator and pick up coil? And as another mentioned, have you checked/cleaned all grounds?
Oh, when I went outside for a few minutes last night,,,that screaming I heard was you?. Sorry the CDI fix it for you. As someone else had mentioned, intermittant problems are the worst one can have. I see that you have done the AC volts test on the stator, did you do the resistance ckecks on the stator and pick up coil? And as another mentioned, have you checked/cleaned all grounds?
Does this all make sense, or am I just hoping there is an end to all of this?
Jackie ( who is getting very tired testing this thing!)
#37
#38
B i n g o!!!!
Thanks Old Polaris Tech! :-)
Jackie
#39
Yep, those stator phases should read "open" to ground.....always.
- Check the stator again...note results
- Disconnect the connector ( from Stator ), check again
You probably found the issue but, follow the yellow wires out and ensure you check the connector and the wiring going to the reg/rect ( from stator ).....just to make sure none of the wires are chafed and grounding somewhere.
- Check the stator again...note results
- Disconnect the connector ( from Stator ), check again
You probably found the issue but, follow the yellow wires out and ensure you check the connector and the wiring going to the reg/rect ( from stator ).....just to make sure none of the wires are chafed and grounding somewhere.
#40
Yep, those stator phases should read "open" to ground.....always.
- Check the stator again...note results
- Disconnect the connector ( from Stator ), check again
You probably found the issue but, follow the yellow wires out and ensure you check the connector and the wiring going to the reg/rect ( from stator ).....just to make sure none of the wires are chafed and grounding somewhere.
- Check the stator again...note results
- Disconnect the connector ( from Stator ), check again
You probably found the issue but, follow the yellow wires out and ensure you check the connector and the wiring going to the reg/rect ( from stator ).....just to make sure none of the wires are chafed and grounding somewhere.