Originally posted by: ToyKing
Hi All
But their are no laws that control the gcvw of a pick up pulling an rv this has been talk to death on the rv forum and they had a dot man on site that stated this.

Originally posted by: BlackandRedWarrior
One thing to note on the Diesel, you are going to get your money back on that motor at resale. I believe the same is true with 4x4 as well. I just ran through kbb.com and compared. Only thing I changed was the gas vs. diesel. XLT package on a F-350 CC LB SRW. $35,085+ (6.0 diesel) vs. $29,270+ (gas V10). That's $5,815. Around here depending on where you go, diesel can be more than 87 or less. The Chevrons and Texaco/Shells are about 10cent a gallon more. If you hit an ARCO/Beacon it's about 10cents cheaper. As an aside, disels just sound cooler. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img] And they each seem to make their own distinct sound.Ok, so I had a little fun with a spreadsheet.I have a couple friends with close to comperable trucks. Note, this is the old 7.3L Diesel, not the new 6.0L.'03 F-350 CC LB SRW V10 4x4 and gets 8MPG towing (28' toy box, 4 quads and gear. Dry.) He also stated he gets the same w/o the trailer.'01 F-250 CC SB 7.3L 4x4 gets 13MPG towing a 30' travel trailer. (Correct me if I'm wrong.) (as an aside, neither of these trucks are CA spec. The gasser is from Oregon and the diesel is from Texas.)Based on 15,000 miles per year.Fuel Used (US Gal):V-10 1875Diesel 1154Fuel Prices (US$/US gal):Gas $2.039#2 Diesel $2.139 (assuming bad case at +10 cents per gallon)Fuel Cost (US$):Gas 3,823.13Diesel $2,468.08Savings $1,355.05Diesel fuel would have to run about $3.319 for the costs to equal out. That's in the range of running Biodiesel.Payback on the fuel is about 4.5years. Maintenance can be higher, but I think you would probably still save a grand a year. And if you get diesel running cheaper than gas, then it's even more. Look at your local station prices as that is what you are going to pay. I might be a bit cheaper up here in the Fresno area. Trasher, as you're in CA, you also will pick up another $60 every two years due to no smog testing. Your reg. and what not should be about the same. I don't think the diesels area any more expensive. Maybe a higher smog impact fee. Anyone know for sure? Though maybe your VLF will be higher as the truck is worth more. Diesels also tend to pick up a little more mileage as they break in.These engines are also built to last. I believe they come with 100,000 mile warranties.Check around the net for other opinions on real costs if that is an issue. Good Ford Diesel forum site: The Diesel Stop Not sure about Dodge or GM. <ed. time>With all that said, let's throw a big 36" monkey wrench into the equation. If you are like most people and you have to finance this bad boy let's take a look at those numbers.Based on a 60 mo. purchase (5 years) and if you happen to get a 0% loan (I don't think you can get a 60mo. 0% loan) that adds another $100 to the payment. If you get for example a loan at 5% then that's going to add $113.23. So that equal to either $1200 or $1356.72 a year in added payments. So that pretty much eats up the fuel savings. So a VERY long-term actual pay out is likely. But remember, if/when you sell it, then you are going to get most, if not all of it back. Kinda like putting money under the mattress rather than a bank though...but maybe the wife or kid sneaks a little every now and then.

Originally posted by: QUADROOKIE
maintenance and reliability will be very much in your favor.

P.S. To whoever it was that said their Diesel is getting 20 MPG.......all I can say to that is, you better sell that thing, cause there are about 10 million truck owners who would be willing to pay a nice amount for that truck!! That is absolutely obsurd!!!!

Originally posted by: QUADROOKIE
The only way the Diesel is the smarter choice is one of three.....

1.) If you have more money than brains, and wanna look "cool"

2.) You tow VERY heavy weights, VERY often, or through EXTREMLY hilly terrain

3.)You plan to keep the truck for say 150,000-200,00 miles or more

The V-10 will tow just as much weight, allbeit at worse gas milage, but not THAT much worse, AND, maintenance and reliability will be very much in your favor.

P.S. To whoever it was that said their Diesel is getting 20 MPG.......all I can say to that is, you better sell that thing, cause there are about 10 million truck owners who would be willing to pay a nice amount for that truck!! That is absolutely obsurd!!!!