Ford Crew cabs w/7.3 Diesel
#1281
09-14-2004, 05:06 PM
Ford Crew cabs w/7.3 Diesel
Originally posted by: nedflanders
Jesse (just4kicks).was Pa going anywhere near as hard and fast as you? that makes a huge diff. are you relying on the idiot gauges or did you actually re-fill tank, check trip ODO and do your calculation from there? I think a combo of factors:1) Dad fudged his #'s a little2) Dad didn't push anywhere near as hard as you3)Axle/resistance/drag on trailer = poorer mileage4)break-in still long ways away for you.5)He's more aerodynamic than you pulling a boat vs. trailer. if you bought extd warranty, DO NOT mod anything. skinner is TECHNICALLY correct that they must prove your mod caused failure.BUT!!!!! my bud is a parts manager for Ford. they have been very aggressive in denying claims for anything modded. just deny it, and let you fight their big huge litigation machine. maybe in 4 years you'll win your case, after a legal bill that exceeds your claim. you want that hassle? they will blame it on the chip, no matter what, even if their theory is flawed and ludicrous. the directive comes from above your local Ford dealer. and Ford often denies the warranty submission from their own dealers, so dealer won't take too many of those bullets before they pass Ford's directive onto you. I removed my chip when i blew my tranny. they still knew i had chip tho. maybe it leaves other finger prints like MD described. Either way, you paid big $$ for truck, big $$ for the extd warranty, it's not worth it to take a chance on a potentially massive repair bill.
Jesse (just4kicks).was Pa going anywhere near as hard and fast as you? that makes a huge diff. are you relying on the idiot gauges or did you actually re-fill tank, check trip ODO and do your calculation from there? I think a combo of factors:1) Dad fudged his #'s a little2) Dad didn't push anywhere near as hard as you3)Axle/resistance/drag on trailer = poorer mileage4)break-in still long ways away for you.5)He's more aerodynamic than you pulling a boat vs. trailer. if you bought extd warranty, DO NOT mod anything. skinner is TECHNICALLY correct that they must prove your mod caused failure.BUT!!!!! my bud is a parts manager for Ford. they have been very aggressive in denying claims for anything modded. just deny it, and let you fight their big huge litigation machine. maybe in 4 years you'll win your case, after a legal bill that exceeds your claim. you want that hassle? they will blame it on the chip, no matter what, even if their theory is flawed and ludicrous. the directive comes from above your local Ford dealer. and Ford often denies the warranty submission from their own dealers, so dealer won't take too many of those bullets before they pass Ford's directive onto you. I removed my chip when i blew my tranny. they still knew i had chip tho. maybe it leaves other finger prints like MD described. Either way, you paid big $$ for truck, big $$ for the extd warranty, it's not worth it to take a chance on a potentially massive repair bill.
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09-14-2004, 05:08 PM
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09-14-2004, 05:12 PM
Ford Crew cabs w/7.3 Diesel
Ned, I agree. With that said I'm back to my original belief that I shouldn't mod anything, well, maybe a K&N air filter.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
I always use my OD numbers and divide by number of gallons it takes to fill her back up to get my milage numbers. Sometimes it comes very close to the computer numbers but I don't rely on it.
Factors:
1) Knowing pa, I wouldn't doubt that one[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
2) Could be I was a bit more aggressive
3) Definately a big drag factor on the 5th wheel...she's just over 12'-0" tall. The boat had the cover on it as well
4) Break-in may not be for a while...I don't drive her too often
5) Back to No.3
I've also heard about putting in a chip and later removing it only to have them tell you, "psstt...we know what you've been up to". Big brother is watching....somehow.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/img]
I always use my OD numbers and divide by number of gallons it takes to fill her back up to get my milage numbers. Sometimes it comes very close to the computer numbers but I don't rely on it.
Factors:
1) Knowing pa, I wouldn't doubt that one[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
2) Could be I was a bit more aggressive
3) Definately a big drag factor on the 5th wheel...she's just over 12'-0" tall. The boat had the cover on it as well
4) Break-in may not be for a while...I don't drive her too often
5) Back to No.3
I've also heard about putting in a chip and later removing it only to have them tell you, "psstt...we know what you've been up to". Big brother is watching....somehow.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/img]
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09-14-2004, 05:17 PM
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I'm guessing they pick up something on the Fuel Trim information on the OBD-II or they are using some of the manufacturers codes to keep information on boost, fuel, fuel flow, etc. It's amazing what those black boxes can do. Does anyone know EXACTLY what the chips do? Adjust fuel timing, fuel flow, boost, etc. Though I'm sure the chip makers don't want to tell you exactly.
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Originally posted by: powerstroke01
Woah. We just called the Bomb dealer and they told us theyre installing a whole new CVT in the 'Lander. eek
Thats a whole new tranny.
Woah. We just called the Bomb dealer and they told us theyre installing a whole new CVT in the 'Lander. eek
Thats a whole new tranny.
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#1286
09-14-2004, 05:38 PM
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Originally posted by: BlackandRedWarrior
So it will be ready around mid October then? [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-blush.gif[/img] Sheesh.
Originally posted by: powerstroke01Woah. We just called the Bomb dealer and they told us theyre installing a whole new CVT in the 'Lander. eek Thats a whole new tranny.
Ive got an email add im going to give my dad for someone at Bomb.
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09-14-2004, 07:27 PM
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If you wanna erase your chip signature just take it out, unhook your batteries and turn on the parking lights. as for tranny deaths ours waited till 101k miles guess what 100k warranty was gone [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/img] all because their shift program was crappy.
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09-14-2004, 07:36 PM
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09-14-2004, 08:17 PM
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