My kawi P650 and my new kawisuki Twin peaks and the kawi v-force are all made in Nebraska, I would say that is as much in the USA as you can get. I know Honda has some plants here also.

I have had both the P650 and the 660 grizz and I sold my grizz last month to get a blue Twin peaks 700, The grizz looks cool but its a little tippy fealing and is not in the same leage quality wise as the P650's and P700's. I also would make mention to the extream vibration of the motor compared to the v-twins, The only thing I can say the grizz has an advantage at, is ground clearance and does look a little sportier.

 

Honda, Kawasaki, Suzuki, and Yamaha may have plants in the US, but they are still Japanese companies. Thus, the money STILL goes back to Japan. While they may make some nice machines, I prefer to spend MY money on an AMERICAN company. Some of the motor may be built by a Japanes company, but the machines are ALL built here and the money STAYS in the US

 

I agree that some of the money goes back to japan, but alot of the money involved in manufacturing a product like atv's stays here in the US. The tax paying american workers building them right down to the janitors and maintinace workers maintaining the plants all contribute to the us economy. What about the dealers most of them I know are tax paying american citizens with multiple employees selling and maintaining them. My point is that, I think there is alot of the final price we pay for these machines, that does stay here in the US. I bet that less than 15% of the final price we pay makes it back to japan.

 

ohhhh sorry to anger you. I just cant justify all of you saying heavier is better. Oh and the being made in america thing, lets just remember where the first ATV ever came from. If it wasnt for them we would all be still riding around on dirtbikes. And just one more comment. What is the capital of Edmonton? Do you (proud to be made in the USA polaris owners) even know?

 

I guess if it was made in the USA it must be the best....... Apparently if you own a polaris its the best quad manufactured, and you are the best ever ATV'er out there. can you smell the sarcasm? Cause i'm laying it on pretty thick here!

 

OK, I'll play. The capitol of Edmonton is "E". Lets get another thing straight here. I am not a brand basher. I like all atv's. And yes, I prefer Polaris. And yes, MY quad is the best one out there for ME! It may not be for you but it is for ME. Hence the reason I bought it. And there are reasons why a heavier machine has its advantages, and disadvantages, but I won't get into that right now cuz I am late for work. SEE YA!!

 

Weighs only 740 lbs??? is that light???? put a tank of fuel in that bad boy. Top it off with all the fluids and oil.Throw yourself on there. Get about lets say.... 100 pounds of mud and muck up under the chassis and on the fenders plastic etc. Pretty close to 900 pounds then isnt it?
It's still hard for me to justify buying a heavy weight like that!

 

I hope you did not think what you were saying bothered me. I have owned a few polaris bikes and not planning on buying any more. I loved the 2000 kodiac I had. It was one of the best bikes I have ever owned. I love power, so I trade up every year or so and the kawi's have the power and the sporty ride of similar to the kodiac.

 

I beleive a honda could pull out a polaris 700. A lot of the time people buy these huge heavy weights and put massive tires on them. they go into a mudhole (or muskeg here in alberta) and spin their tires and bury themselves. Ive seen it before. I have also seen guys on a 400cc machine crawl past them without a struggle. Its not the horsepower it's how the rider rides the machine.

 

I'll add to this,

Well, my Sp600 (740 lbs.) with fluids (@ 45 lbs.), winch and Brushguard ( @ 45 lbs.), me with clothes, boots, and helmet ( @ 230 lbs.), accessory bags with supplies (i.e. tow straps, 2 shackles, mini air compressor, first aid kit, 1 bottle of water, etc. - @ 25 lbs.), and OK let's realistcally add about mud weight at about ( 10 lbs.). I'd say my machine in ready-to-go state is right about...1,095 lbs.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img] Combine that with good tires, True 4wd, awesome low end grunt, and my heavy right thumb, there isn't any other factory quad, other than another Polaris Sportsman Twin, that has the towing/dragging capability of these things. Also, usually with heavy weight comes added traction, so they do pretty darn well in the mud (muskeg to you Canadians).

BTW KodiakOwner, there is no way a Honda will outpull a Sportsman 700 or 600, see explanation above.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]

Happy riding,

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