Hey, I didn't mean to offend anyone(especially ATVer's cause most are good people) your right, I am pressing my opinion and shutting down others, but I try to state alot of facts too, I'll be happy to ride with anyone on any quad, and so will most others, but I am just giving facts on what I have seen, rode, or experienced. But when some idiot acts like he is better than me because he only buys American quads and I ride a Jap machine, now thats BS not me giving my opinions on a machine, not someones pride or patriotism, just a machine.