BEST 400 CLASS UTILITY QUAD?
Jul 14, 2005 | 07:57 PM
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Originally posted by: cc1999
heaven forbid a utility be fun to play around on. Some fokes like to have fun playing on ATV's but don't want to limmit themselvs to a sport quad that has no other purpose. Or like to ride in conditions that require 4 wheel drive.
heaven forbid a utility be fun to play around on. Some fokes like to have fun playing on ATV's but don't want to limmit themselvs to a sport quad that has no other purpose. Or like to ride in conditions that require 4 wheel drive.
Jul 15, 2005 | 07:13 PM
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I see a pattern here..... people get offended when someone mentions speed, power, or quickness. These people are often the ones with the (Big Boy bikes) with the (little Boy engines) in them.
Just my 2cents.
Just my 2cents.
Jul 15, 2005 | 07:36 PM
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BEST 400 CLASS UTILITY QUAD?
Originally posted by: DaRiot
I see a pattern here..... people get offended when someone mentions speed, power, or quickness. These people are often the ones with the (Big Boy bikes) with the (little Boy engines) in them.
Just my 2cents.
I see a pattern here..... people get offended when someone mentions speed, power, or quickness. These people are often the ones with the (Big Boy bikes) with the (little Boy engines) in them.
Just my 2cents.
Jul 27, 2005 | 09:11 PM
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heres an easy solution to the dilema, buy two quads one for work and comfortable trail riding and one for sport riding. If you buy a utility quad and try to make it a sport quad you're gonna get hurt, period end of story. There are limited numbers of people who can make a utility haul the mail, but I don't see the point. I absolutely love our sportsman for riding with the kids , and for a good long trail ride, but if I want to really fly, the yfz is for me. Our 400 may have its toungue hanging out when I'm riding with other guys on bigger utilitys, but its the most comfortable quad I've ever been on. That added on to the new storage compartments,and the lock and ride system, and its an awful good package. Someone said they're expensive, we paid 5450, is this like a lot? We've put 400 mi. on in the first two months of ownership, and had zero probs.
Jul 28, 2005 | 12:43 PM
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How is the polaris's IRS not "true" IRS? And how is the diff lock any better - there is no diff at all in the front of a sportsman, both axles engage and are locked together, but unlock when in 2wd. How is that any different?
AC has used the argument that the IRS equiped quads with swaybars are not truely independent since the rear wheels are linked together by a swaybar. AC uses stiffer spring rates to controll body roll on there IRS quads in order to allow both rear wheels to move totaly independant of each other, however that stiff spring rate = a stiffer ride than quads that use a lighter sprimg rate followed by a swaybar to help controll body roll. I do however beleve I read somwhere that AC is now offering a swaybar as an option on there quads as well.
A manual diff lock is thought to be a good feature in that you do not have to wait for the wheels to spin first before locking. Be able to lock the front wheels manauly is a very nice feature to have when crawling over a large absticle like a fallen tree. I prefer the auto lock in the mud myself since the machines reaction time is faster than my own and on quads like the Kodiak and Grizz I beleave you have to stop first inorder to engage the locker. This is why Kawi's locker is favored by many over the Yamaha since all you have to do is pull a lever similar to a brake lever to engage the locker, which allows you to engage the locker on the go as long as you are in 4 wheel drive to start with. I feal as others do that both types of manual lockers are nice but in the mud the auto slip locks will engage faster than I can detect the slipage and grab the lever (kawi type), or worse stop in the mud hole and give up what momentum you have left to engage the other type (Yamaha/Susuki type) . My riding makes me more apt to need to cross over more downed trees than deap mudd so I like the manual lockers best, But that said, its deffinatly not going to keep me from by one of the new Outy 800's as soon as I find a red one I will be an owner reguardless of it lack of a manual locker.
Sorry about the late reply I didn't notice the last reply I was responding to was at the bottom of page one. Sorry if someone answed this already.
Jul 28, 2005 | 02:53 PM
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Originally posted by: cc1999
AC has used the argument that the IRS equiped quads with swaybars are not truely independent since the rear wheels are linked together by a swaybar. AC uses stiffer spring rates to controll body roll on there IRS quads in order to allow both rear wheels to move totaly independant of each other, however that stiff spring rate = a stiffer ride than quads that use a lighter sprimg rate followed by a swaybar to help controll body roll. I do however beleve I read somwhere that AC is now offering a swaybar as an option on there quads as well.
A manual diff lock is thought to be a good feature in that you do not have to wait for the wheels to spin first before locking. Be able to lock the front wheels manauly is a very nice feature to have when crawling over a large absticle like a fallen tree. I prefer the auto lock in the mud myself since the machines reaction time is faster than my own and on quads like the Kodiak and Grizz I beleave you have to stop first inorder to engage the locker. This is why Kawi's locker is favored by many over the Yamaha since all you have to do is pull a lever similar to a brake lever to engage the locker, which allows you to engage the locker on the go as long as you are in 4 wheel drive to start with. I feal as others do that both types of manual lockers are nice but in the mud the auto slip locks will engage faster than I can detect the slipage and grab the lever (kawi type), or worse stop in the mud hole and give up what momentum you have left to engage the other type (Yamaha/Susuki type) . My riding makes me more apt to need to cross over more downed trees than deap mudd so I like the manual lockers best, But that said, its deffinatly not going to keep me from by one of the new Outy 800's as soon as I find a red one I will be an owner reguardless of it lack of a manual locker.
Sorry about the late reply I didn't notice the last reply I was responding to was at the bottom of page one. Sorry if someone answed this already.
How is the polaris's IRS not "true" IRS? And how is the diff lock any better - there is no diff at all in the front of a sportsman, both axles engage and are locked together, but unlock when in 2wd. How is that any different?
AC has used the argument that the IRS equiped quads with swaybars are not truely independent since the rear wheels are linked together by a swaybar. AC uses stiffer spring rates to controll body roll on there IRS quads in order to allow both rear wheels to move totaly independant of each other, however that stiff spring rate = a stiffer ride than quads that use a lighter sprimg rate followed by a swaybar to help controll body roll. I do however beleve I read somwhere that AC is now offering a swaybar as an option on there quads as well.
A manual diff lock is thought to be a good feature in that you do not have to wait for the wheels to spin first before locking. Be able to lock the front wheels manauly is a very nice feature to have when crawling over a large absticle like a fallen tree. I prefer the auto lock in the mud myself since the machines reaction time is faster than my own and on quads like the Kodiak and Grizz I beleave you have to stop first inorder to engage the locker. This is why Kawi's locker is favored by many over the Yamaha since all you have to do is pull a lever similar to a brake lever to engage the locker, which allows you to engage the locker on the go as long as you are in 4 wheel drive to start with. I feal as others do that both types of manual lockers are nice but in the mud the auto slip locks will engage faster than I can detect the slipage and grab the lever (kawi type), or worse stop in the mud hole and give up what momentum you have left to engage the other type (Yamaha/Susuki type) . My riding makes me more apt to need to cross over more downed trees than deap mudd so I like the manual lockers best, But that said, its deffinatly not going to keep me from by one of the new Outy 800's as soon as I find a red one I will be an owner reguardless of it lack of a manual locker.
Sorry about the late reply I didn't notice the last reply I was responding to was at the bottom of page one. Sorry if someone answed this already.
Jul 28, 2005 | 03:09 PM
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I drive an Eiger, but I've been riding with someone who has a Kodiak 450. Really impressed by the Kodiak, decent power, comfortable, perfect size and very manuverable. I wonder why more people don't have them, is it the price? I wouldn't trade the Eiger for anything, just giving the Kodiak some respect.