DesertViper - I would really like to hear your thoughts and comments on the new Grizz 700 when you have had some time on it. If it weren't for the high price I would be getting that quad for sure.

Montyh - Do you know if the steering on the 650i and possibly 2007 750i is easier than the older Prairie 650's and 700's?

Thanks again, keep the comments comming!

-Krait

 

We will be riding it for four days over Labor Day Weekend, and should have hundreds of miles on it by next week. Its my wife's quad, and I'll be primarily riding my YZ 450F, but I'm sure I can talk her into letting me put it through its paces. I'll post back after the weekend.

 

Krait, the '07 750 has the improved front end that the 650i has. i don't know how they compare to the praries. there is a thread going over at nyrock's in the prarie section about the prarie/brute comparisons. the SRA vs IRS will divide the bunch every time, so that thread probably will reflect that.


monty

 

Anybody out there that would still consider a Grizz/King/Outtie even with the added price?

Montyh, I checked out the thread and it seems most ppl prefer the older SRA to the 750i, however this is the older 750i which I knew supposedly steers pretty heavily and has really bad handling.

Thx guys, anybody else out there with an opinion on this?

-Krait

 

The Outty 650 for 11,150 would be another I'd consider b/c it's ride and handling is much better than any of the Brutes and they are very powerful for a 650, close to the BF 750 in power. Plus they are fuel injected which the BF's definitely lack.

 

If thats not Canadian dollars, a 650 outty isnt worth that, ever, nor any other 650 quad

 

DesertViper - the Grizz 660 is $10,500 so it is cheaper than the new Bomb/Can-Am's, but the new Grizz 700 is $11,600...quite a price jump. But I think the extra $1100 is worth all the improvements.

V2Rider - These prices ARE Canadian$$$. For some reason we get screwed over royally when paying for a new quad.

Toyeboy -

The Outtie 650 theoretically has everything I am looking for, namely awsome power and good handling combined with EFI and decent gas milage. BUT, single lever braking, automatic diff-lock, low snorkels, leaky seals & cvt, small poorly designed rad, weak frame & no stock skids is turning me off. All those problems can be remedied but at extra cost, and some of those mods will void the warantee so having standard 3 years is useless anyhow with mods required to make it compete.

This is crazy how making a decision on a 'toy' can be so INCREDIBLY dificult.

Maybe a description of how I like to ride might make things easier. I like to ride fast, hard, sometimes-not often slow and technical like rockcrawling(nothing too major tho, not like moab or even the rubicon trail), some gnarly mud but nothing requiring bigger than 27" mud/trail tires, a little bit of hill-climbing, exploring, LOTS of fast high speed dirt roads, fast trail riding, small jumps, wheelies, spinning the tires sometimes just to bring a grin to my face, also using it for hunting, fishing, and doing very small chores and work etc. Mostly riding hard and fast on all kinds of terrains.

The Brute's have awsome power, and are very economically priced and they seem pretty tough and reliable. Also they are the only ones with a manual diff-lock that can be engaged 'on the fly'. But that's about all they have going for them(I don't really want the SRA version). Poor gas milage, terrible high speed handling, firm suspension with a firm seat, carbs, poor 4x4 system, and a not so bullet proof cvt system.

The King 700 seems very good, only lacking a park feature, and low end power. I also really like the new Suzuki Green colour. But the new Grizz 700 seems simply a more refined better version of the King, for a little bit more money. Better snorkel placement, Park, better handling, better ground clearance, similar power, power steering, possibly better brakes, a modular rack system, etc. BUT at least the King has a VDI ECM coming out for the power issue. Nothing so far for the new Grizz.

Whatever, I am tired, and have plenty of time yet to make a desicion and to debate this over and over time and time again, with myself, friends, and with you guys on the forums.

keep up the comments guys!!!!

-Krait

 

I don't understand why the straight-liners like Toyeboy will tell you that the Grizz 700 is overpriced and then push the Outtie 650 which is only a few hundred dollars less. I haven't seen any speed comparisons between the new grizz and anything else yet. It could very well be just a click behind the Outtie 650. On top of it, it is the most well rounded big bore quad going at the present time - outtie included. However, it is pricey. If the Grizz is out of the question due to price then so is the Outlander. Especially considering all the money you'd have to sink in upgrades just to match what every other bike already has (skid plates, etc.). If EFI is a requirement, then you can eliminate any BF quad. I'm not a big fan of the Bf. I think they're ugly for starters. If I could take that engine out of the BF and put it in any other quad, that would be ideal. I'd junk the rest of the BF because it's nothing special beyond the engine - hence the cheap price.

By process of elimination, the King Quad is probably the best option for you. Or, you could wait to see if Suzuki releases that new Fuel injected 500cc quad soon. It might fall into your price range nicely after its release.

 

Especially considering all the money you'd have to sink in upgrades just to match what every other bike already has (skid plates, etc.)>>>>>>>>>>>& gt;>>>>>>>>>>>&gt ;>>>>>>>>



Ive made this argument before, as i paid 7300 OTD for my V2, and stuck 2,000 in mods and accessories into it. Its now the same price as an outty, but more valuable[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img] Its the list at the bottom, along with a GPS, Gun Scabbard, Cargo Box, and even an Alarm! I wouldnt trade all that, with the quad and the fun installing everything, for any other stock quad ever

 

v2rider - Yeah its a lot of fun to modify your machine just how you like it. Its all part of the fun. I was meaning the fact that the Outtie requires a dual brake lever modification to bring it to spec like most others, (I much prefer dual brake levers) also manually sealing the cvt to prevent leakage, these two mods alone will almost definatly void most warantees. And the fact that it has a weak frame, and has an area underneath where part of the engine block is completely exposed, means that it REQUIRES skid plates for almost any kind of riding, whereas others (especially arctic cat and polaris) have adequate enough skid protection to get away without adding any. Just my thoughts.

I am leaning towards either a Brute 650i, or a King Quad. The King definatly has the edge for fast aggressive trail riding, while the Brute will generally take it in a drag (bottom end anyway). Any quad I get will most likely get a few mods right off the bat, and more will be added during its lifespan, thats for sure.

A question, those of you who have Elka shocks, how do you like them, how do they perform, how much were they, how do you think they compare to Works Performance shocks?

Thx a lot guys, your comments and thoughts have been appreciated, and keep more coming...[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

-Krait