I know i should let this go but the brute force in not even close to being tipsy. Not even with the stock tires. Also halfway through the 2006 year they changed the caster on the front end which makes it easier to turn. Me and my buddie have 2 brute's a 07 and a 06 and were amazed how stable they r. I dont know what people r comparing them 2 a sport quad?!?!?!!? I have yet to complain about the tipsy issue. As far as power goes we raced a v-force in the DIRT in 4 wheel drive and I beat it by about a quad lenght to 60mph. In 2 wheel drive the brute is just behind the v- force. Plenty of power. As for the other quads dont know or card lol. gl

 

c2tmfp - Hey thx for your comment. I really didn't think the Brutes were that bad for stability, I guess it depends a lot on what you are used to and what quad you were riding before you got it. You say the 750i's got the caster change midway thru 2006, does yours have the new changes and handling? Or is it different from your buddie's 2007? I would imagine that aftermarket shocks would help a lot in the handling department anyway. Can you powerslide yours?

v2rider - How do you like your Dynatek CDI? I emailed Elka asking about prices for shocks, and they quoted me roughly $1300/pair, CANADIAN. Not sure American price, but it would be lower. Pricey but I can appreciate quality suspension. Works I believe are roughly $900/pair, AMERICAN. Both with compression adjustments, rebound adjust., preload adjust., dual rate springs, and remote/piggyback reservoirs. Not 100% sure of those prices tho. You can also get cheaper models without all the adjustments. Works Steelers with only preload adjust. and dual rate springs remote reservoirs I was quoted roughly $600/pair AMERICAN, don't know the prices for cheaper Elkas.

Thx for the replies guys!

-Krait

 

They dynatek is the best thing ive done to my quad. Its awesome to see the power difference from stock, and the power is through the entire power band, not just take off

 

 

I put itp rims and tires on it 26 inch. Now I can power slide all day long, even with the stock tires i could throw the **** end around. You can't lean forward and spin the quad like a v force and do donuts. But you can nail the throttle and slide the **** all over the place. Yes and I know it will get argued back and forth so next time we ride ill take a video of it and post it. I have some vids now you can check out nothing great but shows the power of the BRUTE [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img] whats your e mail i will send u the link?

 

The Brute compared to some of the other best handling big bore utes such as the King Quad and Rincon does not handle well and does have a tippy feel...they may have made changes that have helped but it's primarily the same setup as it's always been.
This isn't necesarily bad though b/c the BF is more of a stand up shift your weight type ute whereas the King is more of a sit down and enjoy the plush ride type.

 

The rincon is not even in the same class as far as im concerned. Im not tryin to put any quads down im just sick of hearin people say the god damn thing is unstable [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]. By the way how do u like your king quad? We were lookin at em when we first started lookin at quads but 4 some reason i had to have the brute force. Edited by ATV connection moderator for smallness. My buddy I ride with is also 6'2" tall so he went with the bigger quad. But as far as the brute being unstable not a chance not close. I have the videos to prove it. I have had the damn thing at a 60 degree incline in a movie I have. I guess if u come from a sport quad maybe u feel a difference but can't seem to see or feel this tipsy thing.

 

The 07 sportsman will have a 4 wheel ebs now so that will prevent the back end sliding. I have ridden most all of the big bores and in my opinion as far as the rock crawling and up hill riding the Polaris seemed to be one of the best. Yes, its heavier but the weight kinda helps keep the front end on the ground. To me, power to weight ratio feels the best on the Polaris. The other brands seem so lite that if you bump the throttle at the wrong time they seemed to kinda lung out of control. If you are on a hill that can mess you up. I'm sure I will be called crazy by some people for saying this. It just seems to me that 600 pounds for some of the high horse power atv's can hurt the control you have over them. Well, yall can go ahead and beat me up. Just speaking for myself and a few others that do alot of trail riding. If I could choose an Atv to have and money were not an object, I think I would choose something like a 500 efi sportsman or something in that power range in any brand. It can go anywhere, but its power is easy to control but can still spin the tires over pretty well.

 

ncriderforks,
I don't think you're crazy. Our old Sportsman would climb real good, but it was a little scary to me because of the weight. I always thought that if I did loose control I would be a gone'r. In fact, I did lose control one time, and it rolled all the way to the bottom of the mountain. I was able to ride it out, but it was with two flat tires due to broken beads, and no brakes due to a broken brake master cylinder. That was a while ago, I ride better now, I think [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]

The Grizzly 700 needs throttle control though. On one long steep straight hill I came to over the weekend, I started up the hill in 2-high, then 1/3 of the way up the hill I decided I would need 4-wheel drive, so had to take my thumb off the throttle to push the 4x4 button, then back on the throttle again. When I hit the throttle again the Grizzly pulled the front tires up about a foot off the ground. But the Grizzly really does feel well planted and is super easy to control, and it didn't feel too bad with the front end a foot off the ground, so I decided to see how far I could go with it. By slowly easing into the throttle more and more I was able to carry the front tires the rest of the way up the hill (so much for needing 4-wheel drive). The power of the Grizz 700 is great fun, but it could certainly be dumped on its backside if someone didn't understand the whole throttle control concept.

And it is really good to hear the new Sportsmans will have 4-wheel engine braking this year. They have needed it for a while now.

DV

 

c2tmfp I'm 6`5" by the way, Shrimp, LOL

I dint get the tipsy thing at all. One of the first things we said when riding was what the hell is everyone talking about this thing being tipsy??????????

Sure its not as stable as my V-force but it is not far behind. I feel totally safe riding this quad.

I can see why people might feel it`s more unstable due to the high seat height and crappy tires but its just a feeling. Put on after market wheels and tires and the difference is amazing.