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Old Nov 24, 2006 | 10:20 AM
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OK you guys had ur fun making fun at me, but you guys only tell half of the story, you guys only tell us the good things about ur ATV but never the bad, Im honest and sometimes I feel im the only guy in this forum that is honest and tells it like it is, you guys don't wanta hear anything bad about the ATV you own, you want everybody to think the ATV you own can do everything. First correction I need to make is no ATV with a locker has a limited slip differential, none have both at the same time, its impossible! If you knew how a differential works you would understand why it is impossible. Second, I can go anywhere you can go with my cheap Eiger and quite frankly I know many of you guys would be afraid to take ur ATV where I take my ATV, and I know for a fact any belt drive ATV will have problems going where I go and you wouldn't keep up with me. My limited slip front differential works as good as any locker and its a proven fact.
 
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Old Nov 24, 2006 | 10:24 AM
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Old Nov 24, 2006 | 10:48 AM
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Originally posted by: MotoF150
OK you guys had ur fun making fun at me, but you guys only tell half of the story, you guys only tell us the good things about ur ATV but never the bad, Im honest and sometimes I feel im the only guy in this forum that is honest and tells it like it is, you guys don't wanta hear anything bad about the ATV you own, you want everybody to think the ATV you own can do everything. First correction I need to make is no ATV with a locker has a limited slip differential, none have both at the same time, its impossible! If you knew how a differential works you would understand why it is impossible. Second, I can go anywhere you can go with my cheap Eiger and quite frankly I know many of you guys would be afraid to take ur ATV where I take my ATV, and I know for a fact any belt drive ATV will have problems going where I go and you wouldn't keep up with me. My limited slip front differential works as good as any locker and its a proven fact.
Don't say that you are the only on telling the truth. I had several Polaris guys mad at me because I was ******* MY Polaris on this forum
 
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Old Nov 24, 2006 | 12:37 PM
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Originally posted by: MotoF150
OK you guys had ur fun making fun at me, but you guys only tell half of the story, you guys only tell us the good things about ur ATV but never the bad, Im honest and sometimes I feel im the only guy in this forum that is honest and tells it like it is, you guys don't wanta hear anything bad about the ATV you own, you want everybody to think the ATV you own can do everything. First correction I need to make is no ATV with a locker has a limited slip differential, none have both at the same time, its impossible! If you knew how a differential works you would understand why it is impossible. Second, I can go anywhere you can go with my cheap Eiger and quite frankly I know many of you guys would be afraid to take ur ATV where I take my ATV, and I know for a fact any belt drive ATV will have problems going where I go and you wouldn't keep up with me. My limited slip front differential works as good as any locker and its a proven fact.

Geeze Moto, do you really believe this, or are you just trolling for some more responses?

Look, I drive the same bike that you do. No question that I love the Eiger. Great bike. Best bang for the buck - bar none. Is it the best ATV out there? - Not by a long shot. But lets look at this stuff:


"no ATV with a locker has a limited slip differential, none have both at the same time, its impossible!" It's actually the other way around - Some ATV's with limited slip differentials do have a locker. With the locker disenguaged, it is just a plain old limited slip. True, you cannot have both activated at the same time - you are either running as a limited or you are locked but you can have both on the same machine. If you wanted to, we could add a locker to our Eigers - but they would still have the very same limited slip function as they do now if the locker is disenguaged.

"My limited slip front differential works as good as any locker and its a proven fact" Yes, the Eiger does have a great LS front dif. Proven fact that it works as well as a locker - Um, no. I went on a ride with one of my sons and a friend and his son. I was on the Eiger. Other dad had a Rincon. Both boys were riding Ozark 250's. I took the lead through a large mud hole - chose the wrong line, didn't go as fast as needed, whatever excuse I could use - the net result was that I got stuck. Both boys roared right on by me, turned around and came back the other way, then did it again. I guess that would PROVE that the Ozark is a better mud bike than a 4wd Eiger? Not hardly. Yes, we can take our Eigers and get through places that bikes with a locker *could* get stuck in - if you consider rider skill or just choosing the correct line. But all things considered equal there will be more times where a bike without a locker will get stuck than one with the locker option.

The reason that many replys to your posts are making fun of you is simply that these absolutes that you are claiming are so far off base that they become laughable. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black -"you guys don't wanta hear anything bad about the ATV you own, you want everybody to think the ATV you own can do everything" Isn't that exactly what you are saying in your own posts? Every ATV has it's limitations. To try to promote the theory that a middle of the pack bike like the Eiger is the ultimate ATV is just plain silly. I'm glad the Eiger works for you - it works for me too. Our biggest advantage is that we have spent thousands less than many of the larger ATV's with lockers. And as we both can agree, in many cases our $5,000 Eigers will go wherever those $8,000+ big bores can go. BUT - the reverse is also true. If we try to take our Eigers up a large boulder covered hillside we may or may not make it. Put you or I or a rider with our same skills on something like a big Artic Cat with IRS and a locker and we will have a better chance of getting to the top, or will be able to get there faster, or will be able to choose more lines up the hillside. While you may not like to admit it, that is much more of a proven fact than some of the things you are stating. The facts are really simple: More times than not, an ATV with a more powerful engine will make it through a tough trail situation that could bog down an Eiger. More times than not, an ATV with higher ground clearance or IRS will make it through a trail that could high center the SRA Eiger. More times than not an ATV with a locking front dif will get out of a situation that could cause the LS Eiger to get stuck. That's the facts, like it or not.

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Old Nov 24, 2006 | 12:57 PM
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MF150, have you been riding out of the state of PA, our your own backyard to see firsthand any other riding areas? I have the pleasure of riding here in IN (local trails, and state riding areas), earilier this year at Harlan County, KY and Paddy's Bluff, and last year at Windrock TN. In my experience there is not many trails that can compare to the trails at Windrock. It was incredible, fast trails, large rocks ( the size of a refrig), vertical hill climbs ( yes I flipped on one, and had to winch on another one), bottomless mud pits, and creek crossing that at some times will swallow your atv. When I was there in 2005 it had rained all week(about 3 inches) and the creeks were swollen and moving rapidly, the current would carry your atv about 10 yards down stream from entry to exit, I had water on my seat and over the headlights a couple of times, checked my belt drain and had no water in there, and no slippage. If you want a challenge try Windrock Trail 10/12, with about 3 inches of rain, anyone who has been there can tell you what it is like. On to my review of the 2005 Yamaha Kodiak. I purchased my Kodiak in Nov. 2004, and just rolled over 2000 miles on it with no repairs. I admit it is not the fastest, most powerful, highest ground clearance, shortest turning radius, mud eatenest atv ever made ( like your Eiger). BUT with that said I think it a well made, dependble, capable machine, that is high on the fun factor, and good all around ATV...with a locker, open front diff 4x4 when less traction is need, and 2wd when you feel like sliddin' the corners.
 
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Old Nov 24, 2006 | 01:23 PM
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I know this will offend and I don't mean it to be but I don't take or accept any belt drive ATV as a capable or serious ATV. I see any belt drive as a toy, a childrens toy, a generic ATV. I seen belt slipping problems soo many times its crazy and I can't believe anybody in this forum has seen it too, cause I know you have,--- ur just afraid to admit it.
 
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Old Nov 24, 2006 | 01:25 PM
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Originally posted by: MotoF150
OK you guys had ur fun making fun at me, but you guys only tell half of the story, you guys only tell us the good things about ur ATV but never the bad, Im honest and sometimes I feel im the only guy in this forum that is honest and tells it like it is, you guys don't wanta hear anything bad about the ATV you own, you want everybody to think the ATV you own can do everything. First correction I need to make is no ATV with a locker has a limited slip differential, none have both at the same time, its impossible! If you knew how a differential works you would understand why it is impossible. Second, I can go anywhere you can go with my cheap Eiger and quite frankly I know many of you guys would be afraid to take ur ATV where I take my ATV, and I know for a fact any belt drive ATV will have problems going where I go and you wouldn't keep up with me. My limited slip front differential works as good as any locker and its a proven fact.
DUDE CAN I HAVE SOME OF YOU ARE SMOKING? SO THAT I CAN THINK THAT MY 1996 2 STROKE SPORTSMAN 400 IS THE BEST ATV THERE IS AND CAN HANG WITH BIG BOYS IN THE DEEP MUD.
 
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Old Nov 24, 2006 | 01:31 PM
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Originally posted by: MotoF150
I know this will offend and I don't mean it to be but I don't take or accept any belt drive ATV as a capable or serious ATV. I see any belt drive as a toy, a childrens toy, a generic ATV. I seen belt slipping problems soo many times its crazy and I can't believe anybody in this forum has seen it too, cause I know you have,--- ur just afraid to admit it.
DUDE I HAD MY 400 EXPLORE IN WATER OVER THE CLUTCH COVER ALL THE TIME, IT NEVER SLIPPED YOU NEED TO TAKE YOUR KNOW IT ALL A$$ OVER TO THE SUZUKI FORUM AND STAY THERE, YOU ARE COMPLETLY IGNORANT........ AND REALLY HOW OLD ARE YOU? WE WANT TO KNOW WHAT WE ARE DEALING WITH HERE.
 
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Old Nov 24, 2006 | 01:40 PM
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Originally posted by: MotoF150
I know this will offend and I don't mean it to be but I don't take or accept any belt drive ATV as a capable or serious ATV. I see any belt drive as a toy, a childrens toy, a generic ATV. I seen belt slipping problems soo many times its crazy and I can't believe anybody in this forum has seen it too, cause I know you have,--- ur just afraid to admit it.
MOTOMOUTH150 i dont mean to offend you, but i do not accept you as a serious atv enthusiest, you are to smart for your own good, but you know crap about atvs,bet you cant even turn a wrench,probably dont have any tools either, just keep lurking and stop posting you must really like making a *** of yourself, did you get beat up alot as a kid, did you ride the short bus? that could explain things.
 
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Old Nov 24, 2006 | 01:41 PM
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God know how someone could think they knows more them companys that have spend millions on R&D.
 
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