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Good Quads for Mudding

Old Sep 19, 2010 | 01:10 PM
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The older Polaris system was just stronger, firstly if has dual Hillary not one, and neither Roller Cages are Plastic,Just steel. Not the first time Polaris improver for the worst.

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Old Sep 19, 2010 | 01:24 PM
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Yep... I had a 93 350 with the hubs. I think they were the "only" thing that didn't break... wait, I remember fixing one (maybe both) of the wires to the hubs.

Anyhow, again, back to the topic at hand. Between the 3 quads the original poster discussed, I would pick the Cat for mudding or the Grizz for mudding/trail riding.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2010 | 01:51 PM
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Comes down to Ground Clearance,Tires and a AWD System (Of any type of the 3), safe to say a Honda will not be on anyones Mud Machine list.
 
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Old Sep 20, 2010 | 07:18 AM
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Heres how the polaris awd system works compard to the Can AMs. YouTube - can-am vs. polaris locker

The can Ams system is not as instant with the front wheel with the traction. Any ATV is great with diff lock I just don,t like the step of having to stop and put a ATV in diff lock and stop again to disengage it.

Any ATV with a AWD system and IRS is as good as the other,its the guy with the best Mud tires after that.
Starting on the 2010 models the XT packaged models have Visko-Lok QE (quick engage) which locks the front wheels in instantly.
 
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Old Sep 20, 2010 | 08:29 AM
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This guy has everyone beat. YouTube - New & Improved NightCrawler
 
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Old Sep 20, 2010 | 12:47 PM
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I bet with those huge tires it has no speed or kahunas though.
 
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Old Oct 22, 2010 | 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by tehpwnerer1918
The Arctic Cats actually don't have the highest ground clearance. Arctic Cat ATVs have had 11" of GC since 2009, when they introduced the 550, while Yamaha has 11.8", Polaris had 11.25" prior to 2011, and 12" for 2011, Can-Am has always had 12" on their 650 and 800, 11" on the 500, and 9.3" on the 400. I don't keep up on Kawis or Zukis because they suck. When it comes down to what you get for what you pay, Can-Am is and likely always will be the most bang for the buck. My family has always owned Cats, and my in-laws have always owned Polaris. The cats are very capable offroad, but have rims that easily dent as well as CVTs that easily allow water in. Their 4WD system is still not on par with Polaris or Can-Am either, but neither is Yamaha's. Yamaha has wide-arc A-arms so you can clear wider obstacles with that ground clearance, vs. the tepee style of the ACs. Can-am has trailing arm rear suspension which prevents the butterfly effect of the tires then going over obstacles. As far as mudding goes, Can-Am is best, followed by Yamaha, followed by Polaris, followed by Arctic Cat.

Last season I borrowed my father-in-laws Polaris 500 to ride with my family at Spider Lake, who's ATVs range from AC 400s-650s. Every one of their ATVs was at my house after the trip being repaired because they all took on water. AC does not have a good stock snorkeling setup compared to the rest. In your scenario I would get a Polaris if you don't want to spent a lot. Or even look for a used Outlander 500, which would have power on par with 650s (I know because I take the sled-pull every year in the 650 class with an Outlander 500). We got our 2007 Outlander 650 XT for $5900 with only 170 miles on it. The Polaris will have the best stock air box, located under the handlebars with the CVT intake and outtake, as well as the air intake, so everything is high. Make sure you get a model with the PXT tires as they perform great in the muck stock too.

My wife and I bought a Can-Am Outlander 650 XT recently and went with the crew to Spider Lake again, and we blew EVERYONE out of the water. Of course Can-Am costs a bit more, but you get what you pay for.
My 05 AC 650 V2 has 12.5-13 inches, and IMO and many others on this forum Kawsaki and Suzuki's are reliable and as capable as any PoPo, AC, and Can-Am. The reliabilty of any ATV depends on how the rider treats it and your past expeirences with the Suzuki's and Kawasaki's probably involved a lot of abbuse and no proper maintence equaling you not satisfied with the two brands. Well just wait after you don't take care of your current atv (if any) you will be mad with that brand too.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2011 | 04:41 PM
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Arctic Cat actually only has 11" of GC, while Can-Am has 12" on its 650 and 800, and 11" on its 500, Yamaha and Polaris both have just over 11" as well.

If you want to be serious about mudding the Can-Am Outlander 800R X mr was ATV Magazine's 2011 ATV of the year, and the kind of the mud vs. the Arctic Cat Mud Pro.

It is not only the best mudding ATV, but the air control shocks can lower the ride for more comfort to and from the mud hole.



If that is out of your budget, go with an Outlander 650 XT. It has 800 class power, but is manageable throughout the power band. Their 4WD system works flawlessly, it has sporty handling, their power steering offering is the best on the market, the XT comes with in my opinion the best stock tire because it rides great on the trail but is aggressive enough to hang in the mud well stock, plus a winch, front and rear bumpers, handguards and aluminum rims. Guaranteed you take any stock, or even modified, against an equally equipped quad from any other manufacturer into a mud run, the Can-Am will win 9 out of 10 times.

Check out the event results from the 2011 Highlifter Mud Nationals. In almost every event that had a Can-Am in its class, Can-Am places 1st, and in some cases 1st 2nd and 3rd. That tells you something.

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Old Jul 19, 2011 | 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Mehoe
My 05 AC 650 V2 has 12.5-13 inches, and IMO and many others on this forum Kawsaki and Suzuki's are reliable and as capable as any PoPo, AC, and Can-Am. The reliabilty of any ATV depends on how the rider treats it and your past expeirences with the Suzuki's and Kawasaki's probably involved a lot of abbuse and no proper maintence equaling you not satisfied with the two brands. Well just wait after you don't take care of your current atv (if any) you will be mad with that brand too.
I owned a 2006 Arctic Cat 650 V2 and it was the biggest turd I have ever owned. It overheated almost instantaneously, the stock tires were pure garbage, and it spent more time in the shop than on the trail. Junk.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2011 | 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Mehoe
My 05 AC 650 V2 has 12.5-13 inches, and IMO and many others on this forum Kawsaki and Suzuki's are reliable and as capable as any PoPo, AC, and Can-Am. The reliabilty of any ATV depends on how the rider treats it and your past expeirences with the Suzuki's and Kawasaki's probably involved a lot of abbuse and no proper maintence equaling you not satisfied with the two brands. Well just wait after you don't take care of your current atv (if any) you will be mad with that brand too.
BTW, I owned my previous Outlander longer than I owned my AC 650 V2, and never had a problem with it. I changed all fluids with Amsoil every 6 months, and never drowned it. I beat on the Outlander worse than I ever did the AC (probably because it ran long enough for me to), and it never gave me a hiccup. Between my family, friends, and my past machines, we have owned over 10 ACs, and every single one of them has had problems (plural). They are Arctic Crap. No wonder the 650 V2 was only in their ATVs for 3 years and no wonder they make most of their own engines now instead of relying on Suzuki.
 
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