Old PSAR thread - please see the new one
Dec 28, 2003 | 12:47 AM
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Well said. I, myself never ride alone, nor do I allow any of my family to ride alone. I think what you do by putting a contact/instruction list in your wallet is a great idea. Even though you may know the people you're riding with, they may not know the details of whom to call or what to do in case of an emergency.
Also to ponder:
I've been thinking about safety since our family has gotten into motorsports, i.e. first-aid. We've had several incidences where trainning would have been very useful. I've looked into getting EMT trained at our local fire department, but the committment to the department is too great for the time I have. There is an OEC training book I think I might go out and buy. But I did notice there are a few firefighters on our thread. Would it be possible to give some high-level first-aid training at some of our outings? Maybe post a safety tip or two on our group website.
Well said. I, myself never ride alone, nor do I allow any of my family to ride alone. I think what you do by putting a contact/instruction list in your wallet is a great idea. Even though you may know the people you're riding with, they may not know the details of whom to call or what to do in case of an emergency.
Also to ponder:
I've been thinking about safety since our family has gotten into motorsports, i.e. first-aid. We've had several incidences where trainning would have been very useful. I've looked into getting EMT trained at our local fire department, but the committment to the department is too great for the time I have. There is an OEC training book I think I might go out and buy. But I did notice there are a few firefighters on our thread. Would it be possible to give some high-level first-aid training at some of our outings? Maybe post a safety tip or two on our group website.
Dec 28, 2003 | 12:51 AM
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Years and years ago I took a standard first-aid class thru the local RED CROSS, Then took the advance course that the Ski patrol guys (and others) were taking. (most likely it's time for a refresher), but I'd check in with them and see what they suggest.
Years and years ago I took a standard first-aid class thru the local RED CROSS, Then took the advance course that the Ski patrol guys (and others) were taking. (most likely it's time for a refresher), but I'd check in with them and see what they suggest.
Dec 28, 2003 | 12:52 AM
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I think thats a great idea.
As many truck drivers as we have,,,,they should all be cpr trained and maybe even have some good contacts and/or safety meetings we could sit in on.
I am certified (although not current), and the course would be helpful for sure. (good to get the young ones involved too)
You truckers/firefighters got any leads or certifications coming up. We could have mock trailside training.
I think thats a great idea.
As many truck drivers as we have,,,,they should all be cpr trained and maybe even have some good contacts and/or safety meetings we could sit in on.
I am certified (although not current), and the course would be helpful for sure. (good to get the young ones involved too)
You truckers/firefighters got any leads or certifications coming up. We could have mock trailside training.
Dec 28, 2003 | 01:17 AM
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Boy we could have some fun with this one. Safety is a big issue. I have some good resources and all kinds of stuff to help us out in this department.
Suggestion #1 We all should carry a safety/survival kit with us while out riding. You can make one that fits in a small fanny pack, you can survive for a few days with this. I have plenty of suggestions and list of stuff to carry.
SAFETY TIP #1
If you wear any cotton clothing during the winter and/or rainy days, PLEASE consider changing your wardrobe. HYPOTHERMIA is a leading cause of death amongst those that like to be in the outdoors during the winter months (although it can also happen other times). The leading cause of HYPOTHERMIA I believe is wearing the wrong clothing, and DEATH by HYPOTHERMIA is caused by lack of proper clothing and the lack of knowledge to recognize signs of Hypothermia. COTTON clothing kills. Cotton absorbs water and sweat without allowing it to dissipate and dry up. Thus allowing the moisture to wick the HEAT away from your body. Cotton when dry is a good insulator, when wet a good killer. Any type of synthetic/wool clothing is 100% better. Synthetics don't absorb and hold moisture like cotton does and wool absorbs water but maintains its excellent insulating properties. Synthetics will wick moisture away from your body and are better insulators when wet. With fleece and stuff becoming so inexpensive now, it's pretty easy and inexpensive to get this stuff.
I honestly buy most of my hunting and riding clothing at the Goodwill or somewhere like that. You can find practically new clothing for dirt cheap, and at $3 to $10 a piece it's pretty much disposable if you trash it. I found a $125 pair of Brand new GoreTex pants (still had tags on it) there. Anyways, I can go on forever. If you want to talk more about this, just let me know. I'm more than happy to talk safety stuff.
Somebody mentioned about Search & Rescue finding dead people. I have been doing SAR for about 10 years. I can tell you, we DON'T find the people that go outdoors prepared and dressed appropriately dead against a tree(unless they obviously have had some kind of accident). The dead people we find are wearing jeans, shorts, and other cotton stuff. Or they are way under dressed.
Enough for now, sorry about the Novel
Suggestion #1 We all should carry a safety/survival kit with us while out riding. You can make one that fits in a small fanny pack, you can survive for a few days with this. I have plenty of suggestions and list of stuff to carry.
SAFETY TIP #1
If you wear any cotton clothing during the winter and/or rainy days, PLEASE consider changing your wardrobe. HYPOTHERMIA is a leading cause of death amongst those that like to be in the outdoors during the winter months (although it can also happen other times). The leading cause of HYPOTHERMIA I believe is wearing the wrong clothing, and DEATH by HYPOTHERMIA is caused by lack of proper clothing and the lack of knowledge to recognize signs of Hypothermia. COTTON clothing kills. Cotton absorbs water and sweat without allowing it to dissipate and dry up. Thus allowing the moisture to wick the HEAT away from your body. Cotton when dry is a good insulator, when wet a good killer. Any type of synthetic/wool clothing is 100% better. Synthetics don't absorb and hold moisture like cotton does and wool absorbs water but maintains its excellent insulating properties. Synthetics will wick moisture away from your body and are better insulators when wet. With fleece and stuff becoming so inexpensive now, it's pretty easy and inexpensive to get this stuff.
I honestly buy most of my hunting and riding clothing at the Goodwill or somewhere like that. You can find practically new clothing for dirt cheap, and at $3 to $10 a piece it's pretty much disposable if you trash it. I found a $125 pair of Brand new GoreTex pants (still had tags on it) there. Anyways, I can go on forever. If you want to talk more about this, just let me know. I'm more than happy to talk safety stuff.
Somebody mentioned about Search & Rescue finding dead people. I have been doing SAR for about 10 years. I can tell you, we DON'T find the people that go outdoors prepared and dressed appropriately dead against a tree(unless they obviously have had some kind of accident). The dead people we find are wearing jeans, shorts, and other cotton stuff. Or they are way under dressed.
Enough for now, sorry about the Novel
Dec 28, 2003 | 01:25 AM
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Quad4Fun,
I think your safety tip is great! Can you post something on the PSAR page? Possibly a list of contents for the survival kit.
My survival kit is generaly a couple of 3/4" wrenches to re-mount my flag...
I think your safety tip is great! Can you post something on the PSAR page? Possibly a list of contents for the survival kit.
My survival kit is generaly a couple of 3/4" wrenches to re-mount my flag...
Dec 28, 2003 | 01:33 AM
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I know the sport quads don't have the racks to carry all the luxuries us Utility guys can. Some of the SAR people have sport quads, you'd be surprised what they can carry and still have fun riding. You know us ute guys carry, like the generator, microwave, big tent, porta potty, etc. etc. But I'm sure you can strap on a small backpack somewhere that is more than adequate to carry the minimal tools,spare clothes, and food we need to survive for a little while until help comes. They really don't have to be big at all. I'll get more links, but here is a start. Look through some of their equipment.
type in>>> www.rramsar.org
type in>>> www.rramsar.org