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Old Jun 18, 2006 | 09:54 AM
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Originally posted by: RancherATCrazy
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Originally posted by: Red400EXRod As far as I'm concerned, Hondas suck! I am Proudly a Yamaha Owner wanna be [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
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Old Jun 18, 2006 | 09:55 AM
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Originally posted by: PowerRam100 June 24th im gonna take a ride on the Naches Trail. It’s located in Greenwater off highway 410. It’s about an hour drive from Renton. It’s a historic trail that goes from western Washington to eastern Washington. I think all the snow should be gone buy now. It’s a muddy, rocky, rutted trail. Some sections can be kinda steep. The trail goes through open alpine meadows and deep forests. If you have a 4x4 machine you won’t have any trouble. A sport machine will be more of a challange. Matt
Anybody want to join me on this ride, I wanna give it a try.
It sounds like a great ride. I may be interested!
 
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Old Jun 18, 2006 | 10:01 AM
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I'm a real mugwump on the union issue. Been on both sides of strikes, locked out as union labor and locked in as part of the management team keeping the plant running. Been a union local president, shop steward and on bargaining teams for both union and management. It really depends on the size of the operation and the attitude of the company involved. We have had a couple of unions that wanted to organize people that worked for us, our employees told them to get lost, and even got picketed once. My opinion, work in the situation that is best for you. Advantages both ways, just don't stay in a job you'r not happy in.
I agree with your FAIR statement......[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
I have seen/heard some better things from them. I am honestly asking this. Would a union help keep your job/position if you got hurt? Would it just be up to that company to let you come back when healed?

I have a great job, that is non union. I go out get hurt on my time. They save my job for me, give me light duty, and then drop a bucket fiddy in my pocket. My first check had a huge raise, and I wouldn't have ever ask(or thought possible) a raise this summer.
Congrats on the raise Joel! That's great news!
Good companies with good owners will not try to rape their employees and in return they get very loyal employees!
 
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Old Jun 18, 2006 | 10:13 AM
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I was looking up Naches Trail and everything I read says the trail is only open for motorized use from July 15th - November 15th
So according to the US Forest Service web site the trail doesn't open for our use until July 15th

A Northwest Forest Pass is also required on all vehicles parked at the trailhead.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2006 | 10:49 AM
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Originally posted by: RancherATCrazy [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img] [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img] [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img] Did I just hear you compare Elbe and Evans Creek????????? Evans Creek is chump change, especially now that they opened up the other end of Elbe after logging. If you can't cross a 3ft diameter tree, the south end of Elbe is not for you[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img] But me I love that chit, you can tell by looking at the front rack of my quad [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img]
Since I've never been to Elbe, I can't make a fair comparison, I just thought those two places could be of the same terrain.

 
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Old Jun 18, 2006 | 11:05 AM
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Originally posted by: Red400EXRod
Originally posted by: TractorPacker
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Originally posted by: tencubed
I'm a real mugwump on the union issue. Been on both sides of strikes, locked out as union labor and locked in as part of the management team keeping the plant running. Been a union local president, shop steward and on bargaining teams for both union and management. It really depends on the size of the operation and the attitude of the company involved. We have had a couple of unions that wanted to organize people that worked for us, our employees told them to get lost, and even got picketed once. My opinion, work in the situation that is best for you. Advantages both ways, just don't stay in a job you'r not happy in.
I agree with your FAIR statement......[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
I have seen/heard some better things from them. I am honestly asking this. Would a union help keep your job/position if you got hurt? Would it just be up to that company to let you come back when healed?

I have a great job, that is non union. I go out get hurt on my time. They save my job for me, give me light duty, and then drop a bucket fiddy in my pocket. My first check had a huge raise, and I wouldn't have ever ask(or thought possible) a raise this summer.
Congrats on the raise Joel! That's great news!
Good companies with good owners will not try to rape their employees and in return they get very loyal employees!
Good companies with good owners will not try to rape their employees and in return they get very loyal employees!
This is a FAIR statement also..........[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
Unions are HERE today for a reason. IMO what Rancher described doesn't exist for the most part, Union Employers/Employees have UNBENDABLE rules the employers/employees have to abide by, If not it's 3 strikes and YOUR OUT and Union Employers KNOW how to make it stick when it comes to firing an undesirable employee.

TP's employer sounds like a VERY FAIR business owner and knows HOW to take care of the people that take care of him............THAT'S why a union ISN'T needed in his case.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2006 | 11:11 AM
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Originally posted by: Bear4570 Well, since you begged I can probably swing it. The wife is working at least 8 hours that day, so I should be able to go. Besides she is working tomorrow too and the youngest daughter is taking me to dinner. So she will be feeling guilty about that. Larry, do we want to meet up and car pool for this gig?
You would probably be taking 410 thru Sumner, Buckley and Enumclaw to Greenwater. I'll be coming up 164 to Enumclaw. The way I figure, if you come by my place, you're adding 30 miles to your trip, or, we could trailer pool from Enumclaw. Doesn't really matter to me.

 
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Old Jun 18, 2006 | 11:15 AM
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O-YEA................................

TP where can I fill out an application at.......I am on the hunt for a NEW job!!!!!!!!!! SERIOUSLY
 
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Old Jun 18, 2006 | 11:27 AM
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Originally posted by: TractorPacker I have seen/heard some better things from them. I am honestly asking this. Would a union help keep your job/position if you got hurt? Would it just be up to that company to let you come back when healed?
From my personal experience, the union would not stand behind you. I had an on the job injury and was 100% disabled with physcial injuries and a head injury for 8 years. Not once in that time span did the union even question my status. Most union leaders and company leaders only care about the size of their wallet, not the working man or woman. Like I said in a previous post, I'm just glad I was in the union for the pension I'll recieve in the future.

 
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Old Jun 18, 2006 | 11:30 AM
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Originally posted by: HappaRap
Originally posted by: TractorPacker I have seen/heard some better things from them. I am honestly asking this. Would a union help keep your job/position if you got hurt? Would it just be up to that company to let you come back when healed?
From my personal experience, the union would not stand behind you. I had an on the job injury and was 100% disabled with physcial injuries and a head injury for 8 years. Not once in that time span did the union even question my status. Most union leaders and company leaders only care about the size of their wallet, not the working man or woman. Like I said in a previous post, I'm just glad I was in the union for the pension I'll recieve in the future.
Head injury? That explains a lot!
 
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