Asking permission/Trespassing
#11
POC,
I am sorry to hear that your signs were shot up. I have an extremely strong dislike for people who would do that (this is a public forum).
I just hope that they were not ATVers. Save the signs, let the local police know what happened. Then when you catch them you can get them for destruction of private property.
Have you thought of setting up a video camera that is motion sensitive that might catch the perp in the act. It is just a thought and might take some extra work but may get the results you want.
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Eric Baatz 1996 Suzuki KING QUAD Remember the KING Lives!!
I am sorry to hear that your signs were shot up. I have an extremely strong dislike for people who would do that (this is a public forum).
I just hope that they were not ATVers. Save the signs, let the local police know what happened. Then when you catch them you can get them for destruction of private property.
Have you thought of setting up a video camera that is motion sensitive that might catch the perp in the act. It is just a thought and might take some extra work but may get the results you want.
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Eric Baatz 1996 Suzuki KING QUAD Remember the KING Lives!!
#12
#13
Being an acreage owner myself, I tend to be more aware of property rights than most.
POC, one way to have the un-invited guest use their own imagination is to hang signs that simply say, "You are under electronic Surveillance, smile for the camera's" Whether you actually have them or not they do not know. I've also seen small CCD cameras with RF transmitters that can broadcast back to a VCR if you're within 400' of the transmitter. Good luck, and better to try and nip it in the bud now than to wait till garbage starts getting dumped and it turns in to a party place.
Heapster
400cc Wicked Warrior
POC, one way to have the un-invited guest use their own imagination is to hang signs that simply say, "You are under electronic Surveillance, smile for the camera's" Whether you actually have them or not they do not know. I've also seen small CCD cameras with RF transmitters that can broadcast back to a VCR if you're within 400' of the transmitter. Good luck, and better to try and nip it in the bud now than to wait till garbage starts getting dumped and it turns in to a party place.
Heapster
400cc Wicked Warrior
#14
Poc,
Yeah, Texas upgraded the trespassing laws and marker regulations because of IDIOTS that would just tear down signs...
Its pretty obvious if there is a tree cut down every 50 feet or so...
Good Luck with your rights as a landowner.... maybe put up one HUGE sign(made of metal and hung up high between two trees with steel cable) and state that all property lines are marked by PURPLE (or any other bright color)Paint.... then go crazy along your property lines... Then, call your local game warden and advise him of your situation, your attempts to correct it with signs, the results (being shot) and your FINAL attempt to correct it with bright paint. I know here in Texas, a game warden can be your BEST friend when dealing with these issues...
Good Luck!!!
Yeah, Texas upgraded the trespassing laws and marker regulations because of IDIOTS that would just tear down signs...
Its pretty obvious if there is a tree cut down every 50 feet or so...
Good Luck with your rights as a landowner.... maybe put up one HUGE sign(made of metal and hung up high between two trees with steel cable) and state that all property lines are marked by PURPLE (or any other bright color)Paint.... then go crazy along your property lines... Then, call your local game warden and advise him of your situation, your attempts to correct it with signs, the results (being shot) and your FINAL attempt to correct it with bright paint. I know here in Texas, a game warden can be your BEST friend when dealing with these issues...
Good Luck!!!
#15
Yes, CO's can be very helpful, and I have one that lives within 1 mile of the backside of the property, where the majority of the tresspass is occuring...also, a State Trooper lives right down the road too...hmmm
I am in pretty good with the CO, as I do NWCO work, for those who don't know that is Nuisance Wildlife Control Operator. I catch those 'coons that get in your trashcan at night. I will try the "marking the borders" thing. One thing I do worry about though is if I make them mad, and they set fire, as Indiana has had WAY less than average rain this year, that could be a very very bad thing!
Thanks for everyones comments.
POC
I am in pretty good with the CO, as I do NWCO work, for those who don't know that is Nuisance Wildlife Control Operator. I catch those 'coons that get in your trashcan at night. I will try the "marking the borders" thing. One thing I do worry about though is if I make them mad, and they set fire, as Indiana has had WAY less than average rain this year, that could be a very very bad thing!
Thanks for everyones comments.
POC
#16
Being sued by a trespasser is probably not a problem. In most, if not all states, a landowner is not liable for the condition of his premises to anyone except a "business invitee." That is someone who is doing business with you on your land, such as a customer. You can not set traps for trespassers, though.
Sometimes you don't know whether the land is private, or not. I found the neatest trail. It looked like a highway under construction, and it was fun. there were two houses off in the woods at one end. A lady came out and complained that I was on her land. Well, it was obviously a public access road under construction. It was muddy, there were tracked loaders and dozers everywhere, but she was right. It was a public easement over her land, and although the City had a right to use it, I did not. I simply told her that I would respect her wishes, and never rode there again. Yeah, she was probably just being a spoil sportm, because I certainly did no harm to her property, but it was her land. No matter her reason, I had to respect her wishes.
Sometimes you don't know whether the land is private, or not. I found the neatest trail. It looked like a highway under construction, and it was fun. there were two houses off in the woods at one end. A lady came out and complained that I was on her land. Well, it was obviously a public access road under construction. It was muddy, there were tracked loaders and dozers everywhere, but she was right. It was a public easement over her land, and although the City had a right to use it, I did not. I simply told her that I would respect her wishes, and never rode there again. Yeah, she was probably just being a spoil sportm, because I certainly did no harm to her property, but it was her land. No matter her reason, I had to respect her wishes.
#17
Have you guys ever been to Long Island,NY? We have ABSOLUTY NO LEGAL RIDING AREA's. I drive 2 hours to NJ and spend about $25 in tolls just to go riding. Oh, and keep in mind over 70% of LI is woods.
In LI many riders really have no choise but to ride on "posted" land! But man if there was any legal place to ride within an hour I bet a lot of illegal ridding would stop.
--John
In LI many riders really have no choise but to ride on "posted" land! But man if there was any legal place to ride within an hour I bet a lot of illegal ridding would stop.
--John
#19
JOHNDJMIX,I know how yah feel,until 1991 in Michigan,we were able to ride allmost any Forest land,but now the tree hugging lobbyist/envirmentlist have put a stop to that.Now we can ride only if the area is posted open for orv use.Makes me madder than hell.Snowmobilers ride allmost anywhere legally in Mi.Why the double standards?Oh well,I ride anyway.LATER-----BILL
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