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Old 09-08-2002 | 12:13 AM
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Huh? Terrorism on our ATV trails? Whodat - Are you on drugs? Osama Bin Drinkin?

Nope – Here in Minnesota, and in Wisconsin, and South Dakota – everywhere we’ve been – we’ve experienced it.

It is terrorism to booby trap the trails to cause accident, injury or damage that could lead to injury isn’t it? Littering a trail with shards of glass can cause a tire blowout – loss of control, over-turn the quad? Sound dangerous to you? Digging holes in the trail and covering it with sticks and branches so the unsuspecting atv rider falls into it and flips over? Is that terrorism? Boards with nails buried in the trail tracks? Nails spread in the parking lot of a trail head? Coils of barbed wire hidden in the brush where “obvious” obstacles steer you into it?

Webster defines terrorism as the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion. One definition of terror is violence committed in order to intimidate a population or government into granting their demands. And coercion means to bring about by force or threat <coerce the compliance of the rest of the community.

So is it terrorism? Are the left wing anti ATV wackos terrorists? Are they as bad as the terrorists who attacked America last September? I think so. I think it’s a crime. I think that we should be arresting the terrorists here as well as in Afghanistan. It might not be the world trade center, but my quads carry my wife and my children. Because terrorists here wear hiking shorts and baseball caps doesn’t mean they are not out to cause you harm in advancing their political agenda through the use of fear and terror.

These booby traps are terrorism. They are a systematic use of terror – they are a means of coercion to bann our ATV's and they are criminal.

Somehow we need to bring these people to justice. I admit I don't know how - but that doesnt make it less wrong.





 
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Old 09-08-2002 | 01:10 PM
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True, Very true.....
 
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Old 09-08-2002 | 08:47 PM
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Whodat- have you actually seen or been a victim of this? Doesn't sound good,and you are correct,it is against the law to do things like that.I can't imagine my son being the victim of a cruel set up like that.Not much different than the right to lifers bombing a clinic,they kill to save lives??? If it looks like these traps you see are being changed or repaired,try setting up one of those infrared game tracker cameras,they sense a heat source (animal,or human) and take a picture automatically.Nothing like some hard evidence to send those wack jobs to the house of many windows. Good luck,and drive carefully !!
 
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Old 09-08-2002 | 10:40 PM
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Actually? YES I have. Numerious times in several places. At the Spring ATVAM in Gilbert MN we found carefully placed glass shards along the trail between convention location and campground. The shards were dug into the ground standing on end. Just down the road from me a neighbor (township board member I'm told) dislikes ATV's driving in the ditch where he has to plant grass and mow - has barbed wire placed in the tall grass and tires and pipes placed to direct you into the wire. In the Black Hills on Spearfish Peak the trails are littered with glass shards and sharp sheet metal "scrapings" . At Nemadji we brought back 2x4's that were half burried into the trail. In Wisconsin the trail head parking lot had hundreds of nails - with the flat heads ground off to be pointed on each end! All of these obvious acts of terror\bobby trapping with the intent to cause injury and damage.

Law enforcement appears confused on what they can do about it.

That camera systems sounds pretty good. I'll look into that.
 
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Old 09-08-2002 | 11:12 PM
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the cameras is a good idea but with alot miles to cover may not get results, if you really want to hurt em do what the cops do, go undercover, join whatever tree huggin group you think is doing it, (or pay someone you think they wouldnt suspect) then you have two choices either get the info and dump it to the police or have every guy whose atv has been damaged waiting for them the night they decide to go out playing shenanigins.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
 
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Old 09-09-2002 | 05:29 PM
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Gee, Does anyone remember the incident in Long Island where a resident didn't appreciate guys drag racing in front of his home on a straight-away. He decided to pour oil on the street; a guy lost his life that night. He was up on manslaughter charges. People do bad things sometimes.
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