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91CavGT 10-27-2007 11:32 PM

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: RticKwad

So what you are saying is that it is not really the size of

the tire or mud tire type but just jack up the PSI?



Obviously, you were going thru some deep mud with

water stuff above, were you running 10 PSI or close

on that occassion?



My concern is if I jack my normal 5 PSI up to 10PSI to go

thru deep water, how will it do on the mud underneath

and climbing out and all around? People tell me to even

lower the PSI when going thru thick mud, but as you can see

above, its NOT Either/OR ya need both.



Thoughts?



R'</end quote></div>

No, it's a combination of a small rim AND a large tire AND high inflation pressures.

I found this out accidently because the Super Swampers would not stay sealed unless they had 10 psi of air in them. In the picture above I was running and currently do run 5 psi.

RticKwad 10-28-2007 12:28 AM

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So what you are saying is that if you had the 10PSI going on
above, you would of been above water pulling yourself thru,
a more desired application for the above?

Regards,

R'

91CavGT 10-28-2007 12:33 AM

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: RticKwad

So what you are saying is that if you had the 10PSI going on

above, you would of been above water pulling yourself thru,

a more desired application for the above?



Regards,



R'</end quote></div>

Probably not due to my current tires being 9.5" wide instead of 13.5" wide and the current rims being 12" instead of 9". Basically, I'd have to air my current tires up to around 20 psi or so for them to give the same lift that the old ones did at 10 psi.

RticKwad 10-28-2007 12:36 AM

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Cool, your on-line too, okay is there a measuring stick on PSI
ratio or tire size? I have 26" Carlise (3-ply's) and don't know how
far I can jack the PSI.

Thoughts?

R'

91CavGT 10-28-2007 12:40 AM

my deepest, but didn't get stuck
 
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: RticKwad

Cool, your on-line too, okay is there a measuring stick on PSI

ratio or tire size? I have 26" Carlise (3-ply's) and don't know how

far I can jack the PSI.



Thoughts?



R'</end quote></div>

Yep. It really depends on several things. You have to take into consideration the age of your tires, their overall shape, your riding surface, and how much weight is being put on them. Higher psi in your tires tend to lead to more punctures.

Most ATV tires are rated to run between 4 - 8 psi.

You can try to air them up to 10 psi all around and slowly drive off into some deep water. If the front end sinks with the tires completely submerged then the quad won't float with your current setup.

HONDA CRUSHER 93 10-28-2007 01:16 AM

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: RticKwad



I saw a youtube video of a guy

going thru swamp and such with

small mud tires, like he was floating

on it. I think he was running a Honda

Foreman.



R'</end quote></div>

A Foreman 500 supposedly floats completely stock.

HONDA CRUSHER 93 10-28-2007 01:17 AM

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BTW sweet pics 91CavGT.

RticKwad 10-28-2007 10:10 PM

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Okay Honda Crusher 93.

What makes the Honda stock float
besides maybe the tires?

R'

HONDA CRUSHER 93 10-28-2007 10:17 PM

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I don't know, I don't like Honda, I just have them so I will always have something to work on. I have just heard from a lot of websites that they do.

Hebs 11-01-2007 10:34 AM

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The reason people told you to have even less air pressure in your tires, is because they want you to spread the footprint of the tire out, thus spreading out your weight more, and hopefully keeping you on top of the mud. This only really works if you're trying to go over top of some really thick mud. (with a crust cover) The lesser the air, the more the grip on the tire as it will flex more, so it works well when you're trying to climb out of soggy creek beds with slippery roots and rocks where you need the most tread to the ground as possible... With extra air your tire is taller and gives you better ground clearance. This helps when you want to get to the bottom of the slop and onto firm ground for traction... Sure, they'll be more buoyant... but only in high water content situations... The downfall of the extra air is you reduce your tread to ground ratio on uneven and slippery terrain, thus reducing your over all traction...

Hope that helps...


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