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Old 03-12-2004, 10:14 AM
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Anyone have heating issues with their 102mm overbore Raptor? I have found in the past overboring normally tends too make an engine run a little hotter. My head gasket was leaking upon disassembly and the bolts still had proper torque....anyone have a recommondation on fixing this pesky problem? Thanks guys!
 
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Old 03-12-2004, 10:41 AM
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Check and make sure the sleeve is flush with the top of the cyl. and maybe use some nylomar (sp?) on the gasket. What gasket were you using?
 
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Old 03-12-2004, 10:45 AM
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Check and make sure the sleeve is flush with the top of the cyl. and maybe use some nylomar (sp?) on the gasket. What gasket were you using?
Should a parts store have the nylomar stuff? I used a stock OE head gasket last time. I have a Cometic top end gasket on hand for the buildup this time....the one thats good for up too 102mm. The sleeve is flush. Thanks bud....I appreciate the help.
 
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Old 03-12-2004, 11:33 AM
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How do you know it was leaking upon dissasembly? Unless you had symptoms before tearing it down its probably just spillage??
 
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Old 03-12-2004, 11:36 AM
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I should have worded that different too avoid confusion. It was loosing coolant earlier and I could swear it was loosing OIL as well before I tore it down. I have no oil leaks anywhere else????
 
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Old 03-12-2004, 11:41 AM
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oh, Could be. Maybe get some new head bolts, its good to change em atleast every other time. I seen reviews on water wetter and similar products that say it actually works.

I got a pin hole in my radiator that is hard to see, I get a wiff of it every now and again.
 
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Old 03-12-2004, 11:44 AM
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I got a pin hole in my radiator that is hard to see, I get a wiff of it every now and again.
I smell AF on occasion as well....I was asuming it was coming from my exhaust since my engine is on a steady diet of the stuff. I need too check my radiator...[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/img]. THanks gentlemen.

 
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Old 03-12-2004, 12:06 PM
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I just fixed mine last summer, its leaking again but in a different spot (seems to be where the fan mounts, I had to bend the tab up and out of the way to get at it)

I taped up the ends and used an air nozzle from my compressor to find the thing, if its out in the open it may be easier to spot.
 
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Old 03-12-2004, 12:52 PM
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Before installation, I sprayed my Cometic HP head gasket with a Felpro copper spray (sssh, don't tell Bob:-). I also torqued the bolts a little further than spec. I went up from some low number, like 24, in 2 ft/lb increments and at 28, went to 1 ft/lb increments. At 31 ft/lbs, I felt the head bolts stretch and stopped. The end torque wrench moved maybe 1/16" more than it moved on the previous 1 ft/lb increments. Maybe it wasn't the head bolt stretching, maybe I was on the ragged edge of stripping the threads?:-) Anyhow, mine never used a drop of coolant or oil. It could have been dumb luck or a combo of assembly "deviations". The guy that bought my Craycraft 686 just won a XC race with the motor and my old Holeshot XCTs.

You guys should look at the 2 aluminum radiators for the Raptor, IMS/Fluidyne and a new one that I can't remember right now. I bought the IMS/Fluidyne for my 727 and it's a real nice unit. Much more rugged than stock and twice as thick. The aluminum mounting tabs are very sturdy, at least 1/8" and maybe 3/16". My motor is still at Santa's Workshop so I haven't had a chance to use it. yet. If it performs as good as it looks like it should, well worth $300 - $400. I'm removing the fan and thermostat and adding a temp gauge, I'll let you guys know how it all works. After reading the article on coolant additives, I'm going to run straight Engine Ice.
 
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I know not every one runs in the Dunes but , I switched to Alky and my heating issues are over.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img] It also runs better than ever.
 


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