...ha ha, i know, seriously. You would think I said something bad about there wife or girlfriend. But wait, I didnt even say anything bad about there raptor. I was just trying to get an answer as to see where they are coming from when they are trying to get a raptor down to 340lbs! Seems pretty silly to me, but whatever! Whatever floats your boat guys. I am not on here insulting people, just seeing where you are coming from.

Makes a big difference when you tell me at the end, that its for 4-stroke drag racing!

 

Hey man thats fine. The only reason your raptor is faster than the other two, is because you have focused all your money at it. SO in no way did you discredit what I said above.
If you want to trick out a raptor for 4-stroke drags, more power to ya. I think thats what I would do too, if I where into that. But for regular drags a banshee will usually reak havic on the rappys.

 

Your sentences are longer but your spelling and punctuation still suck.

Anyone can build a fast Banshee, not much challenge left in that one. You are not thinking at the same level of competition, this is not two buddies racing down a dirt road. These are straight line drag 4 strokes burning alcohol and nitromethane. If you think it's easy to build a stock framed normally aspirated YFZ that can run with my Raptor, you got 6 weeks to do it and still make Sicily. Until you prove your "theories" on a track, I'm not going to waste any more time explaining this.[/quote]


Sorry I'll get a professional editor on this asap! Yeah, there are a lot of fast banshees out there, and they have been over done. But if you want to win, then thats usually what you have to ride!

ummmm, I never said it was easy, nor did I lead you to believe that I think its easy to drag a yfz against seriously modded stuff, with alsmost twice the displacement! I never said anything about a track or any theories on a track.....what are you talking about?
I directly disputed your open statement of "I don't know of any YFZ's that make the power of a Raptor motor when equally modified" .............That is wrong. Until you get into the motor on the rappy, that is flat out wrong. I agree, that as soon as you start throwing money at the two, in engine parts, the rappy will start making more power then a yfz. Doesnt quite mean you are hands down going to be faster though, as there is a little thing called "power to weight ratio" which some of you seem to forget about. The raptor is going to HAVE to be making several more horsepower then a yfz, to make up for the weight! I am not disputing it cant be done, just disputing your open statement that the raptor is faster then the yfz!

 

I never bashed on the yfz or you it may have come off like that because I was in a bad mood but all I was trying to say is that I want something different, and I was stating that I like the raptor. by the end of the night I am hopping that I will be down to just the rolling chassis, and maby have some pics posted.

 

Um, who do you think gets more love and attention? their girlfriends or their bikes? Anywho, now that you know why they get so defensive lets get on to the why. If you build a fast banshee there will be a million people faster than you. If you build a fast raptor there will be 2 million faster BUT if you say "2 strokes dont count" the number drops to a level where your ego can go up a bit. Of course some of the guys just want to be different and others just did it because its the bike they had, they started liking drag racing more and more, then it slowly progessed there. Besides it would get boring if everyone had the same bike.

 

I just finished pulling my motor now it just a bare rolling chassis. just wheels shocks frame and steering. time to get on with the fun stuff tommorow.

 

You are 100% accurate and my wife gets plenty of attention. If they didn't have different classes in ATV drag racing, I'd have to get a Banshee and be like everyone else.

 

I don't know why I am taking the time to say this being on the connection and all...but anyway here goes...

Here is the main reason I built up the Raptor and not the Banshee...On the Raptor, I can get plenty of people who are willing to race all day long. A lot of people underestimate the Raptor motor and the power it can make when built properly. It is fun to race and have plenty of people that will keep pulling up on 450rs, Yfzs, other Raptors, etc, and get blown away. It is great when someone says "To bad Yamaha didn't use the technology in the YFZ motor and put it in the Raptor, you would think with 210 extra cc's Raptors would be faster" then I race them and their jaw drops...getting beat by 15-20++ lengths will do that. Additionally, most places I go four strokes outnumber 2 strokes about 10 to 1. Now if someone pulls up on a Banshee with 25in 14 paddles, and power valves hanging off the front of the cylinders it is amazing how fast the four strokes pull aside and shut down to watch. A lot of times, I see the big Banshees making solo passes because no one wants to line up. It is not as much fun racing by yourself.

And Raptors can get under 250 pounds, it all about the money...just ask Kenz Cycle Tech and their Titanium framed Supercharged Raptor. If that thing doesn't motivate you, nothing will. Kudos to Ken on that thing, I can't wait to see it run.

I do agree Banshees are the drag King and I do have plans for my Banshee too, it involves Cheetah and 10mm. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]

I plan to keep the Yfz just as it is. However Yfz's can be made to go real fast too, Just ask Finish Line Racing.

I guess my point is, don't come on a Raptor weight thread insinuating we are stupid/crazy for building a drag Raptor and not expect us to say something to you.

Diesel, have fun building your bike...cause building it is half the fun of racing.

 

I guess my point is, don't come on a Raptor weight thread insinuating we are stupid/crazy for building a drag Raptor and not expect us to say something to you.

UMMMM, you should learn to read my previous replies. I NEVER insulted anyone, that was the last thing I was trying to do, I even said that. I NEVER called or insinuated that you where stupid or crazy. I even said that if I where making a 4-stroke drag quad that I would probably use the raptor too, If I where into that.
GEEZ, settle down.


Thanks all you guys for telling me where you are coming from. Thats all I wanted and was trying to figure out!

Good luck on the 340 mark man, I really mean it. You can go off what thsi guy just said and get it down to 250 lbs, but then the guy next to you might just have an f-16 engine strapped to his 4lb snow board and really rock your world.
250 lbs, give me a break! That thing is going to be worth like 30k in the end, and all you will beable to do with it is flat ground drag. Hit a pothole and the thing will crack in two!! ha ha.

 

getting a raptor down to 340lb is like getting a shee into the 270lb range. or somewhere equivilant. id personally rather have a fast raptor over a fast banshee any day of the week. Just my opinion though, and i think their are several people on here who strongly agree with me.