Considering what was available when I bought my Raptor in 2004, I rate it an 8. I have never had a problem with it being too topheavy.
My biggest complaint has to be the airbox setup and what a pain in the *** it is to get at the carbs to make adjustments.

BTW, whoever defined torque as "How much you can pull" is incorrect. Torque is a measurement of rotational force.

 

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9 love my raptor lots!but i just want more speed out of it. at first it was amazing quick but now i just take it for granted..............but still like what it offers [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]

 

I have two raptors and we love them. I'd give them a 7 because they are still a lot of fun. Everything is relative, 20 years ago people would have rated them an 11 on a scale of 1 to 10. In 20 years people will probably rate them a 3. I've heard for years about how "tippy" they are but I've never noticed a difference and I have a Z400 too. My Z has a full yoshi pipe, k&n and lid removed, plus a CDI, my raptors are stock and they both run pretty even with the Z. However, I think the Z is more fun to ride because it is more responsive with the mods and will hang onto a gear longer than the raptor, also because of the mods. My wife loves her Raptor and doesn't care that much for the Z so personal preference and riding style have a lot to do with liking a particular machine.

Paintball, as far as torque goes there is no way the 660 has more torque. The 700 is a torque MONSTER. I've seen the dyno #'s for a 700 with pipe, no airbox lid and the power commander at it was pulling mid 40's for both HP AND torque.