I do not ride a whole lot in the winter. A month or so ago I needed to start the quad and the dam battery was dead. I think the LED on the security system drew the power down. So anyway I got to pull start the Kodiak and it was cold out. It sucked, but it worked.

Anyway, If I had the 700, I would spend the $90 and get one of them bad@ss gel cell batteries. I may find a link to show you what I mean. They can be mounted any which way and work very well in extreme temps. They also have a superlong warranty and are built like the optima line of batteries.

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Coloradobubba,
That is exactly what my Grizzly was doing when it was so cold. I had the same thing happen a week later (yesterday), which was the next time I tried to start the Grizzly. The Grizzly had been in the garage that whole week though (temp ~ 45 degrees), so it got me to wondering if temperature was the problem. I remembered that I had ridden for a whole day with the headlights on the day before the Grizzly would not start the first time, and that I had seriously stressed the battery, and not ridden it to recharge the battery before the second time I had problems starting it. Maybe the fuel injection requires a fully charged battery to work correctly. Tonight I put a charger on the battery and charged it for 8 minutes at 10 amps, and then 52 minutes at 2 amps. Then I unhooked the charger and tried to start the Grizzly. It fired up immediately, and ran at a fast idle, just as it should when it is cold. Did you do anything to your Grizzly that may have strained the battery before your Grizzly acted up on you?

I'm not sure it is a battery issue, but you make the third person I have heard of that has had this same exact problem. You described it to a tee. Let us know what you find out from the dealer.

DV

 

I had not run down my battery. I had rode the new machine for .6 hours with no lights on. My first attempt to start I cranked about 8 differant times only engaging the starter for 10-12 seconds at a time. The engine would chug along but wouldn't stay running when I left off the starter. The battery started to run down a tiny bit so stopped and let it set for 5 mins and tried again. Again engine would chug along but not start. Finally I cracked the throttle prior to cranking and then hit the starter and it started right up.
I'm taking it back to dealer, gritting my teeth......
Maybe the idle is not set correctly? Seems pretty high but based on your information this is supposed to be pretty high.

My Kawasaki Nomad with EFI has a idle boost cable for setting the fast idle, I've needed to use it only in real cold days. It only raises the idle speed, no effect on fuel. In fact I've drove it to work and finally noticed the fast idle and never noticed any performance issues.

So I've had the unit .6 hours and had it overheat the first 10 mins, appeared to be a air flow or lack of issue so drove it about 75 yards at about 6 mph and light went off, rode around for about a 1/2 hour and stopped to talk and noticed it was on again while sitting at idle. Again rode it for about 75 yards and light went out. Loaded it up and called dealer.....he asked about the fan, "was the fan running" I didn't recall so looked up at the fan and noticed the connector hanging down for the fan. Wasn't even plugged in. Did I pay for setup???? Pretty sure I did, to the tune of $300~

I also noticed that shifting from park to reverse or high or low or back is a pain in the butt. I"m pressing the foot brake with everything I got. Now if I don't use the brake it just won't move, once I press the brake pedal it will move some then bind. It will shift but seems way to hard, almost like the idle is too high and belt is engaging....based on my limited experiance with my Kaw.

Taking the unit back for all three issues.....now I remember why you don't buy new ATVs. You get to pay for debug time twice.

Now other than that this thing rides VERY nice and steering is completely effortless. I've got nerve issues in my neck and the ride didn't cause any pain.

 

I'me thinking about to change my Grizzly 2003 and buy the new 700, but this start problem in cold situation it's really "strange".

May be a Fi setting problem? I don't think ( but i'me not a technic), the prlblem was caused from the battery. Look like a throttle position error, or, as i said, the FI program.

Waiting your news about.

Thanks

 

Throttle postion sensors can cause some nasty issues with idle, starting and performance off the line.
I forgot about that hopefully Yamaha tech can work some magic.

 

Sure they can.

I live in mountain, the Grizz must start at first in very cold temperature, as my grizz 2003 always done, without problems.
It will be interesting to know if the problem is limited to small number of new grizzly or if it's a general problem.
I'me going to buy the 700 there, in Italy, never heard at today about start problems in cold situation.
Hope they fix it.

 

I too have had the cold starting problem with my grizzly, it would start, but it would take forever, i'm talking 30 times turning it over when its cold out. one thing i'm wonderin, i haven't gotten a chance to try it out cuz its warm out now, but the C0 thing you can access on the digital readout and bump the fuel up to 162 from 0 to richen it, would this possibly help at cold temps since the grizz is running really lean from the factory, just a thought, maybe before you start it, crank it up to say 80 or so, and start it, let if warm up and change it back if you feel the need. just a thought.

 

Dropped off my new Grizz and the weather here in Colorado is supposed to be 12 on Fri and 10 on Sat. So they should have a good chance to reproduce issue. They did insist there is no fast idle cable or lever on unit.

I discussed the overheating issue (fan not plugged in) with the dealer and they did say something which made me feel better about what happened. It makes sense. They asked if I smelled the ATV getting hot, NO, did antifreeze blow out, NO, did engine start pinging or knocking, NO. In fact if it had not been for the idot light I would have had no clue the engine was anywhere near getting hot. They seemed to think that the above indications would have had to happen to cause any damage. They said they can run some tests like compression and others?? which can determine if the cylnder is scored or not. I still voiced concern about warning in users manual about NOT letting engine over heat during break in, in fact that was the main reason for running below 1/2 throttle. I did ask for another atv, but was talked into letting service look the unit over. I've worked on cars for a living years ago and the above mentioned indications do show over heating, just was pissed that a 10K ATV would overheat the first 15 min.

I'll update when I get ATV back next week. Too @#$ cold to ride anyway.

 

Thanks for the update coloradobubba. We're getting a foot of snow over hear in the mountains of southern UT tonight, and the plow is installed on my Grizzly. I'm sure I'll be giving it a workout in the next day or so, and I'll be interested in hearing what they say about the starting problem.

DV

 

ColoBubba/Yami450D

I just picked up my 07 Grizz last night. It has 1 mile on it.....got it home and tried to start it to get it off the trailer. It did the EXACT same thing you are describing. When I had the starter engaged it sounded like it was running but as soon as I let off the starter it would die. If I gave it too much throttle when I try to start it would backfire. I finally got it started but I had to VERY LIGHTLY give it some gas. It was 18 degrees outside at the time. Please keep me posted on how you solved the problem if you get it solved. I called the stealer and they said it was 'normal' to have to give an ATV a little gas to get it started. I think this is bogus as it is an EFI machine.