i'm on BHQ i also am on everythign2stroke and know someone who has been in banshee's for about 15 years now... a 27.5 pilot is too rich for just pipes

 

thanks guys. i want a yfz 450. ill swap my 2002 400ex lots of mods and 2003 banshee toomey t-5 for one.

 

idk y.. my shee eats those things

 

Because, maybe when you are a little older you will understand that there is more to riding than just having the fastest quad in a straight line. (some people have machines sort-of devoted to things like that, such as my KX500)

Suspension, handling, low end torque, and a fast bike... thats what newer 4 strokes offer.

 

ok.. spend the money for some +2 a arms and shocks.. and you'll still have way less into a shee than a 4 stroke... low end torque?? ok.. you can set up a shee to have low- mid range torque..

 

I wont get into a Banshee vs whatever debate.
I know about them all, first hand. I just got rid of a 97 Banshee that I owned and loved for 4 years.
Ive had a built Zilla, a stock fourtrax 250R, 2 400EX's which one I built into a 440, the Banshee, and currently own a (wider and longer) 300EX, and my 03' 660 Raptor. (I wont even mention the dirtbikes and streetbikes i've owned..)

just a quick note, it would take thousands to make a Banshee handle like a Raptor, let alone a YFZ450.
There is much more to a bikes handling than just A-arms and shocks. Theres frame, and suspension geometry, which
can only be improved on in a banshee by updating the 20 year old frame design.

Also, there isnt much that can be done to a twin 2 stroke to produce the off-idle huge instant torque of the 660+ CC 4 stroke naturally produces. Its just the nature of the beast. Some places where I ride (ocotillo wells), the shee wasnt much fun.
You need torque and great suspension. This is where the Raptor is AWESOME.

 

IMO raptor dont have great suspension... it has decent suspension but nothing spectacular

 

Its very decent compared to, say, a 400EX... and it IS excellent compared to the Banshee I recently sold.