Although the banshee and raptor have very different power delivery, when both machines are stock there very close in a drag race. When you start to modify engines, the 2 strokes respond so much more for so much less money. Yes, a banshee with pipes will send the raptor home. The raptor gains power with a unrestricted exhaust system, but not the same gain as the banshee.

Also, I've won alot of drag races at silver lake on my warmed over 85 ATC 250R. It takes more than a banshee with pipes to get by this 250.

 

i ahd a 86 250r when they first came out. Then acquired a quadracer. No i own a Raptor 13 years later and i love it. I HAVE BEATEN a MODIFIED BANSHEE 2001 that had the following modifications:

1 FMF pIpes
2 Cool Head
3 Jett kit
4 Boost Bottle
5 Prodesign air filter
6 Vito piston kit
7 MX Turf tamers
8 Dura blue extended axle

we dragged 8 times on a flat but rolling straight away manily hard pack.. 7 out of the 8 i won. by 2 to 3 bikes lenght..AND i really wasn't revving it all the way in 5th gear and i still took him. the only thing i have on my bike is a white bros eseries pipe..and thats all..i don't even think i need the pipe

Raptor 2001 Blue
White Bros E series pipe
Yamaha shock covers

 

Listen, if you want to be realistic here, what do you think a stock Raptor would do to a stock TRX? I think it would humiliate a TRX in a drag race. With a $1200 dollar budget to upgrade the Raptor's suspension and the TRX's engine I think the Raptor would win in a motocross situation as well. You guy's must admit that since 1989 people have been dumping thousands of dollars into thier TRX's. Raptor mod's are only beginning to be developed. The TRX's days as the standard are numbered. The raptor may or may not replace it but something definately soon will.

 

I beat a piped 250r pretty easily with a stock raptor. Pretty close until i hit second then it was a joke.

 

I have an 86 trx 250r.It has wiseco .020 piston,low-mid porting,FMF gold series fatty pipe,power core 2 silencer,Uni filter,boyesen reeds,Jd performance +2 A-arms,white bro's white power shocks with adjustable res's all the way around,durablue eliminator 2+2 adjustable width axle,durable posi loc axle nut,renthal trx250r bend handlebars,Factory 909 grips,Ac stadium series front bumper with # plate,pro design kill switch,nac's casesaver,PEP easy pull clutch perch and lever,motion pro clutch cable,18/11/8 holeshot mx's on mitchell .190's,21/7/10 holeshots on ITP .190's,fastline braided steel brake lines,braking brake pads,


And some other little stuff I can't think of right now.

I am not saying I am going to beat anybody or anything.But I have left a 440ex in the dust up a long straight at one of my mx races.I have beaten alot of 400ex's even when I had my stock pipe,

moded out 86 trx250r
97 300ex
90 blaster

 

Hmmm.....250R vs. 660R....I wonder????? I don't care what anyone says about the QUAD of the century. To me, the 250R is still the greatest, and alway's will be. The Raptor is nice. I will agree it was time for something NEW to come about. I'm just sorry that HONDA wasn't the one that made it happen. (Although they did start it with the 400EX.) Long live the trusty 250R. (Let's see what the PROS run this year at the GNC'S!!)

 

Doesn't get any closer to stock than that...