TextKLJ, I too am looking for a slip on, I was just wondering where you are ordering from, I am looking at getting either a yoshi or a big gun. I am not too familiar with hmf and was planning on ordering this weekend, but I might just have to wait for the shoot out next month. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img] By the way, If you are intrested,and havent already heard, there are ice races scheduled for Jan, it's a real blast and there should be a lot of quads out this year, You should check it out n get involved!