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Old Nov 25, 2012 | 06:46 PM
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Recently came across a Kazuma Falcon on craigslist for $45. It definitely needs some TLC though. Everything is there for the most part. I had to put in a new battery. Having some problems starting it though though. The previous owner didn't have a key for the ignition so hey left just the wires there. I was trying to "Hotwire" it but don't know the correct combination of wires to twist together. I touched the red and yellow together and it sparks and I hear a faint humming. The colors are Black, Black/white, Yellow, Yellow/White, Red, and Green. Any help is greatly appreciated and this is my first quad so really looking forward to getting it running.
 
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Old Nov 25, 2012 | 07:25 PM
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Make sure you have a fuse installed in the wiring at the battery, and that it is no more than 7 amps. That way if you cross the wrong wires you'll just blow the fuse instead of melting wires and possibly starting a fire.

6 wire ignition switches have three separate switches in them all ganged to a common shaft. The switch also has three separate positions:

1) Off
2) On
3) On with headlights

In the "off" position the black/white and green wires are shorted together (switch 1 of 3). All other wires are not connected.

In the "on" position the black/white and green are disconnected (switch 1 of 3), the red and black wires are connected (switch 2 of 3). The yellow and yellow/white are not connected (switch 3 of 3).

In the "on with headlights" position the black/white and green are still disconnected (switch 1 of 3). The red and black wires (switch 2 of 3) are still connected. The yellow and yellow white wires are now connected (switch 3 of 3).

Green: Ground
Red: Fused battery power
Black: Switched fused battery power
Black/White: Kill switch pin to CDI
Yellow: Headlights
Yellow/White: Headlights

Note that on the latter two wires above I'm a little vague. One of those will be power to run the headlights, and the other will be switched headlight power, but I don't know which. Not that it matters since the switch doesn't care - it just hooks them together or not. Your headlight power is probably AC voltage direct off the stator, but I not 100% positive on that either.

Caution: There is high voltage on the kill switch wire (black/white) when the engine is running. Keep your fingers away from this wire whenever the engine is running.

Another similar thread:

http://forums.atvconnection.com/chin...on-wiring.html
 
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Old Nov 25, 2012 | 07:37 PM
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Ok I connected the red and black wires together and attempted to start it it... Nothing happened. I made sure the kill switch was in the correct position and it still did nothing. What would I use to jump the starter myself? (By the way the starter is the little cylindrical object by the battery with the 2 posts and the fat red and black wires connected right?)
 
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Old Nov 25, 2012 | 07:50 PM
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In the previous post I pasted in a link to a similar thread that for unknown reasons doesn't work (for me anyway). I'm pretty sure this is a problem on the ATVconnection end which will be solved at some point in the future.

In the mean time go to the "chinese quads - ask an expert" forum and dig back to a post from "nickg" on 06/05/2011 titled "Kazuma Falcon 110 ignition wiring".
 
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Old Nov 25, 2012 | 07:52 PM
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Thanks for all of your help! I'll start working on it tomorrow and let you know whats happening. Really excited for my first quad!
 
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Old Nov 25, 2012 | 08:06 PM
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Ok I connected the red and black wires together and attempted to start it it... Nothing happened. I made sure the kill switch was in the correct position and it still did nothing.....
By nothing happening I assume you mean the starter motor didn't turn? Did you apply the brakes? The starter safety interlock system requires that the brakes be applied before starting the quad. That way you cannot start up the quad in gear and unexpectedly lurch into something or somebody.

Apply the brakes and look at the brake light. Is it lit up?

Originally Posted by kazumakid97
.... What would I use to jump the starter myself? (By the way the starter is the little cylindrical object by the battery with the 2 posts and the fat red and black wires connected right?)
The cylindrical object next to your battery is the 'starter solenoid'. The 'starter' is a large motor bolted to the engine. I suspect that 'starter solenoid' is what you meant . To jump across the solenoid you take a screwdriver and place it's metal shank across the two large posts on the solenoid. This connects the battery directly across the starter motor. Starters draw about 30 amps, so some sparking is to be expected as you connect the two solenoid posts together.

Caution: When you do this you are bypassing the safety interlocks. The starter motor should turn unconditionally. Before you attempt this make extra sure that you are in neutral, and the brakes are applied.
 
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Old Nov 25, 2012 | 08:11 PM
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That other link I referred to above also discussed starter turning motor issues - very similar to your problem. Be sure to look at it.
 
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