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250SX Won't Stay Running, also - what is the "Cold Start Carb Kit"?

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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 03:31 PM
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Default 250SX Won't Stay Running, also - what is the "Cold Start Carb Kit"?

I have a 1985 Honda 250SX which I have had since it was essentially new (original owner bought it as a Christmas present for his wife, she refused it so he put it up for sale). It started to behave like it had a clogged fuel filter several years ago. By the time I got around to working on it, the carb was horribly clogged up by deposits from fuel, and refused to run even after cleaning the fuel filter. I finally pulled the carb to go through it this week. I was following the directions in the Clymer service/repair manual for this model. The throttle valve was completely stuck in its bore, but it eventually loosened up with PB blaster. I soaked and cleaned the whole mess in carb cleaner. The needle jet was stuck, and I was never able to completely remove it (the manual says not to use anything metallic on the jet). I was able to run some brush bristles through the jet and clean it out. After removing all the various jets, I turned the carb over and a very small washer (about the diameter of the jet threads) came out, but I'm not sure where it came from. <u>Does anyone know what this washer is? </u> The only semi-logical place seemed to be between the needle jet holder and needle jet, but I haven't tried running with it there yet (I just left it out when initially assembling).

When I got everything back together (and starting with the default 2-turns out position of the pilot screw), it will only start and run if the choke is fully engaged. It will also immediately die if I back off the throttle. I can rev it up, but it stumbles badly until the RPMs are high (in other words, a bad off-idle stumble). I backed off the pilot screw (eventually 4 full turns), and it will at least idle without additional throttle input, but only with the choke fully engaged. Any ideas?

Also - the manual mentions a retrofit kit which is supposed to be installed on all 250SX's, a "Cold Start Carburetor Kit". Does anyone know of this? The local dealer had no idea. I'm pretty sure mine does not have it unless it came from the factory.

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Michael Pliska
 
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Old Mar 9, 2010 | 10:58 AM
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that cold start retrofit didnt make it to ll the 85 es and sx models I was told to drill out the pressed in jet to .0080 and then there was someting about a breather tube fix? in that same kit
 
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