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Old Sep 1, 2008 | 05:56 PM
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I just purchased a 2006 800 Max w/ 42 hrs & 207 miles on the odometer. The machine is very clean and appears to be well taken care of. I purchased it from a dealer so I was unable to talk to the original owner re: prior maintenance. That said, I wonder if someone can point me in the right direction, as I am having two issues with the machine:

1. When the machine is cold most times it will not start on the first try, usually the second but that's after the engine stumbles for 10-20 seconds. An EFI should start the first time every time...correct?

2. Second issue I'm having is occaisonally the machine will stall, happens after I've been running it for awhile. It will occur after I've been crusing along and come to a stop, but it doesn't always do it...It's very random.

The machine tops at around 60-65 mph (I ride at 9000-1000' elevation). The Oil looks good, air filter appears to be clean, and the motor sounds tight.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2008 | 11:54 AM
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Try checking the valves. Usually when a machine is hard to start, it might be the valves causing it.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2008 | 11:53 PM
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Funny you should mention that. Earlier this week I took it into my dealer and had them go over the bike completely. They indicated that the valves were in fact out of adjustment. So far, so good. The bike is starting on the first try--when completely cold. I sure wish they would put hydraulic valves in these things....the adjustment alone was $220.00 US -- Ouch!

Thanks for your response.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2008 | 10:34 AM
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No problem. That's the first thing the dealer should have checked when you described the problem.

Wait until you try to do it yourself! That back cylinder valve cover doesn't come off to easily when the engine is in the frame. I can understand whay they charged you so much.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2008 | 11:06 AM
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I dont think you can have hydraulic lifters in an overhead cam motor, because the rocker arm ride directly on the cam and the valve stem.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2008 | 08:50 PM
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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Speeddrive1

I dont think you can have hydraulic lifters in an overhead cam motor, because the rocker arm ride directly on the cam and the valve stem.</end quote></div>

I know the Polaris twins' have hydraulic. Are they overhead cam motors?
 
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Old Sep 13, 2008 | 08:51 PM
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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: MC Ballpeen

No problem. That's the first thing the dealer should have checked when you described the problem.



Wait until you try to do it yourself! That back cylinder valve cover doesn't come off to easily when the engine is in the frame. I can understand whay they charged you so much.</end quote></div>

Won't be doing that one by myself. Has your Outlander been reliable for you?
 
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Old Sep 14, 2008 | 10:27 AM
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Well 600+ miles on it and so far no problems that I haven't caused. Like drowning it a pond. When I cleaned it up I didn't account for the water and dirt in the gas tank. Once I got that cleaned up it runs like a top.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2008 | 11:35 PM
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Sounds like you did GOOD WORK there!
 
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Old Sep 15, 2008 | 12:30 AM
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If you're going to take it into high water or deep mud the first thing I'd do is to snorkle the air intake, even before the CVT inlet or outlet. Here is where you can REALLY mess the motor up. Not only will you get water into the cylinders and possibly mess up a valve or worse, but the crankcase vent is in the airbox too. It's on the lowest part of the airbox so any water that gets in will run right down to the crankcase, resulting in milky oil and no lubrication.

The next thing I'd do is to get rid of the two one way valves on the top of the gas tank. These are supposedly the vent for the tank. Believe me they are beyond worthless. Most of the gunk that was in the fuel tank got there long before I drowned it out. Take a piece of tubing the same size as the elbow on the tank and run it up to a high place. I ran mine into the airbox. Then I fit a fuel filter on it to make sure that no dirt got into the tank.
 
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