Hey guys,

I love reading everything you guys have to say about your 650's. I love mine! The only problem is the stock tires don't quite cut it. I had 26" Rampages on my 400 and loved them but I was curious what everyone else thought. I need something that can trail ride a little too. With all the power on my new Praire the only thing these stock tires do in the Mississippi River Mud is dig a hole quicker. I got stuck two times this week-end and was heart broke! I have been too lazy to put on my warn 2500lb winch. One more thing,,,, does anyone else have a little trouble with their switch from 2 wheel drive to 4 wheel drive?

Forrest

Stipid is as stupid does!!

 

Are you looking for something aggressive like a Vampire or Outlaw? I like the Vamps on my 300, you shouln't have any problem spinning them with your 650. Those 589s look good, too.

 

As for the Tires I have Tiatan 589 MT's on mine and in the mud these things pull. I am not too happy with the traction or the ride on hard pack. When going slow you can feel the lugs every time they roll over. As for the 4x4 switch is all I can say is SLOW. They say you are not supposed to switch when you are rolling but sometimes that is the only way it will switch but I can live with the slow switch cause everything else is awsome!!!!

 

Forrest-
Confused a bit here-your title suggest's "best mud tire for your prairie", yet you mention here you want something that will not rattle your teeth out on hardpack. So, I'll say that the best "pure mud" tires to look at would be any of the Outlaws, Vamps, or maybe the new Mudzilla 28". If I were going with a "pure" mud tire, I'd probably opt for the Outlaws, as they are a pure mud tire, yet still fairly light weight for their size, due to construction. I think the 28x12x12 weighs about 3-4 lbs. less than my 27x12x12 'Claws, but I might be a bit off on that one. Anyway, if it were me and I needed a pure mud tire, the Outlaws would be my choice.

Now, since you want something that will ride decent on hardpack, I'll suggest you look at the Bi Claw/Tri Claw combination. Get yourself a 27x9.75x12 Bi Claw up front with the 27x12x12 Tri Claw in the rear, you'll have a great setup. Your prairie will handle them just fine, I doubt you'll notice too much drop in power from the larger size-I didn't notice a whole lot on my 'Cat, which is 150cc's less than your prairie-basically the only difference I noticed was that in high range going up hills, I couldn't gain speed like I used to. No difference at all in low range. With the higher output of the prairie, I doubt you'll notice much at all. These tires are awesome in the mud and deep snow-they tend to "pull" you into stuff you'd otherwise think you'd be stuck in, yet they keep pulling you through, dragging skidplate the entire way, it's incredible! I've run through about 3' of snow up at my property, dragging skidplate the whole way, just floating along, with the 'Claws pulling me everywhere I wanted to go. Granted, it was very slow going, but they did the job.

On hardpack, they are surprisingly smooth at speeds above say 4-5mph. You'd never know you were on a huge heavy lugged tire above those speeds. Below that on hardpack or concrete, you'll feel the up/down movement of the huge lugs, but in loose dirt, rock, mud, whatever else, you won't even feel it.

The titan 589 m/t is another good tire to look at. Does good in the mud, seems to ride OK, but depends on who you ask. I don't think they ride quite as smooth as the 'Claws, simply because the spacing between the "V's" is quite far apart. Kind of like < < <, as opposed to <<<, if that makes sense??? Another one to look at would be the Mudrunners. I've heard they are a good all-purpose tire that run well on hardpack, yet do decent in the mud too. I can't say myself as I have no experience with them, but they might be worth a look.

Anyway, best of luck to ya with the decision, there are definately many to choose from! If you're interested, check out the "snow pics" at my link below. You'll see a few good pics of the 'Claws in action in some deep snow up at my property.

Take care,

mike

 

I agree with "Mr. Bulletproof" (Cowboy) here. The Claws are a good compromise between an excellent mud tire and a decent ride for that type of tire. They do great in mud. Better than several tires out there many of which ride better, but have only 1" lugs.

However, if you want the BEST mud tire, you are probably looking at Outlaws. Vamps are great, especially ASX, but I don't see enough advantage for them if any over the claws for the difference in the way they ride. Mudzilla's look to be awesome, plus they come in 28" & Cawood Tire has them for around $100-110 or something.

There are several tires out though that really look good. The newer GBC tires look very good, the Carlisle tire looks a lot like a Vampire copy, and that ASX Vampire looks like an improvement though I think you can only get it in 26".

Basically, any of those tires with 1 1/4" lugs are all going to be great tires. To tell a major difference between them, you would really have to get into some nasty stuff.

 

Hey Forrest, I have the 27" Titan 589MTs. There great in the mud,and not to bad on hard pack trails. I went with a 11" wide tire on the rear instead of 12", so I would have more clearence from the gas tank with stock rims. Here are some pics with the tires showing how much clearence. As for the 2&4 wheel drive, I have no problems, I switch from 2&4 while moving, I just let off the gas and switch it,goes right in.


650 & 660 pics

 

Thanks for all of the replies guys. I think what I am going to do is get a seperate set of wheels and tires just for when I am feeling in the mood for mud which is all the time. My question is do any of these tires need spacers or a lift kit or can I just slap'em on and go?

Next quick question????? Is there a winch mount for the Praire. I only see 2 holes back under there for a winch. Am I missing something?

Eric

 

Uh, I did forget to mention that the Vamps are ROUGH on hard-pack. If you get them I hope you aren't a contact wearer.

I wish Slot hadn't shown those bad-a$$ pics. Now I won't get any sleep tonight.

 

Yes warn makes a winch mount for the 650 it is real simple and cheap. The mount goes in the same place as the stock hole but uses 4 mounting holes as to 2 on the stock mount which I never figured out how it worked. The only problem is that it is a pain to spool the cable back on the winch neat and the mount is real low.

 

Slinger, Dig, Cowboy, Andi, Slot,

Thanks for all your input! After consideration I have decided to go with the Outlaws. 27" around. I am getting the 12" in back so I am currious if anyone has tried that and knows if you need spacers? I noticed you didn't have a ton of room Slot with the 11". What do you think? Cowboy, your email helped me decide to go the Outlaw way. Heck, If I want to run the trails I'll just throw the stock tires and wheels back on. That is only a 20 minute process. When I get in the mud I'll get the pics out to you guys to compare the mud with yours!!

Forrest

650 Prairie 27" Outlaws!!! Here's Mud in your EYE!