Speeking of pulling power. I pulled a suzuki sidekick out of the mud down on the river bank a couple of weeks ago, he tryed to go through the mud and he got hi centerd. i hooked up my winch and backed up out of the mud onto dry sand. then i locked in the winch took up the slack then put it in reverce and pulled him while he tryed not to spin the wheels, he started to dig in more and i was digging a hole with my cat so after i dug a big hole with all my tires. i started to use the winch and i pulled him out. now thats power. even though the winch did most of the work i still pulled him out.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]