<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: garman351

Priesman64

Why did you post this blog?

After all that is said & done you stated you are a Yamaha fan?



Most of the belt drive quads are pretty close to the same other than money?
And all are faster than a Honda!



It's either gears or tears on the trail?

The Honda doesn't have low range and can't tow as much as a belt drive.
Buy a Honda 3.9% finance

They all offer special financing specials!



Foremans: have huge low end torque with a five speed (trans)

Rubicon: Best transmission ever installed on a quad! Hydrollic no gears or belts

BS!

Rincon: Softest & best handling comfortable quad ever made as stated by Dirt Wheels magazine.

I have several rags that rate Honda dead last!!!!



If your looking to mud or drag race buy something other than a Honda they are neighter the fastest or have that locker front axle? (SO-WHAT)

YES exactly



Most trails we travel on here in Mich. 12 to 21 Mph is a pretty fast clip



I like to have fun with out all worrying about ongoing belt adjustments what springs should I buy on & on, belt slippage, crappy mpg if I dont run my quad in low gear up to a certain speed other wise I can glaze the belt. Special tools to deal with playing with your belt adjustments & replacements.

You need to get up to speed! The belts last a very long time and are very cheap to replace compared to an auto tranny!

Honda first came out in 1970 with the first ATV I/E (ATC) And they have been a world leader ever since, why else do you think they stay away from belts? a belt system is cheaper to manufacture than a gear driven transmission. Belts are a non stop service issue and Honda does not want to deal with non-stop warranty issues. (Bad business to produce a machine that needs ongoing service)

You need to get up to speed on the other brands of atvs out!
Honda is behind the times on there atvs. I bet in a year or two HONDA WILL BE BELT DRIVE!



I could careless what all you mudheads have to say differently that is a fact. I'll wave as I pass you by having a good time while you are broke down playing with your belt crap.

Fact is you know crap about atvs!



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well put

 

Thought this is a pretty accurate depiction of mags.


In a typical magazine...

Instruction From The Editor To The Journalist:

Frangible Arms just bought a four page color ad in our next issue. They sent us their latest offering, the CQB MK-V Tactical Destroyer. I told Fred to take it out to the range to test. He'll have the data for you tomorrow.


Feedback From Technician Fred:

The pistol is a crude copy of the World War II Japanese Nambu type 14 pistol, except it's made from unfinished zinc castings. The grips are pressed cardboard. The barrel is unrifled pipe. There are file marks all over the gun, inside and out.

Only 10 rounds of 8mm ammunition were supplied. Based on previous experience with a genuine Nambu, I set up a target two feet down range. I managed to cram four rounds in the magazine and one in the chamber. I taped the magazine in place, bolted the pistol into a machine rest, got behind a barricade, and pulled the trigger with 20 feet of 550 cord. I was unable to measure the trigger pull because my fish scale tops out at 32 pounds. On the third try, the pistol fired. From outline of the holes, I think the barrel, frame, magazine, trigger and recoil spring blew through the target. The remaining parts scattered over the landscape.

I sent the machine rest back to the factory to see if they can fix it, and we need to replace the shooting bench for the nice people who own the range. I'll be off for the rest of the day. My ears are still ringing. I need a drink.




Article Produced By The Journalist:

The CQB MK-V Tactical Destroyer is arguably the deadliest pistol in the world. Based on a combat proven military design, but constructed almost entirely of space age alloy, it features a remarkable barrel design engineered to produce a cone of fire, a feature much valued by Special Forces world wide. The Destroyer shows clear evidence of extensive hand fitting. The weapon disassembles rapidly without tools. At a reasonable combat distance, I put five holes in the target faster than I would have thought possible. This is the pistol to have if you want to end a gunfight at all costs. The gun is a keeper, and I find myself unable to send it back.

 

Cold Start Problem ???

I've been starting my 660 since 2002 and it's never once not started on the first push. I was even starting it by pull start for a while (due to another issue) and it would pull start on the first pull.

 

I have a 660 and love it, It has never felt tippy though I think maybe those people just don't know how to ride. I did flip mine just recentlly but I was jerking around doing stuff I know better to do, I'm pretty sure I would have rolled over if I was riding any brand of bike if I was in the same situation.

Allthough for an all around work/play atv I am reconmending to my uncle the polaris. Mostly because of the opinoins I read on this site from all brand of riders.

 

wow you guys are harsh on the magazines. I usually am too (I am in the sportbike scene though) but overall I actually liked Quad. I never liked the sportbike mags because it's mostly about some failed racer turned journalist getting free bikes to ride and free trackdays then writing about how awesomely fast they are.

Lap times are beyond worthless when someone else is doing the riding. So many variable, yet lap times are all the rage in sportbike mags. Pathetic.

Same went for the MX mags I used to read.

But these are, I think, more because of the racing nature of those mags. Sportbike and all the others forget that 99% of riders will never see a track or tail slide into corners.

Quad seems a little more down to earth, at least the utility quad shootout series.

I do have one bitch though- the article about duck hunting with quads was retarded. Sorry, but that was at best sophmoric and came across as just silly. Many serious hunters would have been a far better source for that piece than people that had no business with firearms. Look at the caption on the one picture:
"With our RIFLES raised........"

Uh, try SHOTGUNS. If you don't even know the difference between the two, you have no business shooting one. And it displays a lack of credibility on the part of your magazine to miss on such core things. No one says you need to rattle off shot sizes and powder measurements, but come on-----shotgun......

Hire me and I'll write all the hunting articles you want- with a lifetime of hunting experience to convey to readers who may be reading your magazine to see what quads might do for their hunting outtings.

 

The grizzly 700 just won Quads Big Bore shootout..for whatever thats worth..

 

thats what i want to hear which quad won the whole thing by a review

i just got the issue in the mail and i am very pleased how they tested all of the quads together for the final shootout

 

I will throw my 2 cents into this discussion. Has the decision been made as to which quad the topic starter will purchase? If so, I missed it. I was in the same predicament a few months ago and decided on the Grizzly and am so glad I did. This quad is awesome. As stated, none of the big bores are "perfect", but for me the Grizzly comes darn close. Power to weight is very impressive, ride is excellent, ground clearance is superb, and 4wd, 4wd diff lock system is tops. At time of purchase I was considering the Grizzly, Arctic Cat, and Suzuki KQ. I had previously owned a 2000 SP 500. I thought the SP, even a 2000 model, was awesome, until I got a hold of the Grizzly. Personaly, the 4x4 system on the Polaris blows. The fact that the rear has to loose traction for the front to pull is a poor design for a utlility ATV. And as much as a Polaris weighs it is a utility ATV. Someone mentioned all rally cars use an AWD system. Well that would be correct, and it works best for that type of driving, break-neck speed at all times. Where these ATV's are used, at least how I use mine, is on slower paced, technical trails. Diff lock works best every time. You will find no diff lock on the Polaris. You will on the Grizzly, the AC, and the KQ. The Brute has diff loc if you want to hold on to that lever which is a really bad design. Poor design, but at least it has a diff lock. The AWD system of the Polaris and the weight of the machine steered me away from another Polaris. Good machine, but these are two big misses in my opinion. And weight matter big time in my opinion. You don't just sit down and ride. A fair amount of body english is required to navigate certain trails. Throwing around the overweight Polaris becomes a real chore. The AC may be heavier yet. They are both a couple of fatty's. Ride them all and decide, all the big bores are nice, but some are better. I did test drive most and the one that was a flat out turd was the Rincon.

Brent

 

I have to disagree with your comment about the Polaris AWD.
The Polaris traverse the technical sections easier than the atvs with diff lock. The AWD will pull you up and over and then release giving you easier steering. The diff lock atv must disengeage each time.
I haven't ridden the new Griz 700 with PS but the 660s are nothing to brag about. I do have seat time on a 450 Griz with diff lock. The Polaris 500 does it all easier.