Okay so I have narrowed my choices down to three bikes...

1) $5800 2012 Polaris Sportsman 500 H.O. (75 miles, no accessories at all)
2) $6000 2012 Polaris Sportsman Touring 500 H.O. (350 miles, winch, windshield, 2up)
3) $6200 2007 Can Am Outlander Max 650 EFI (1500 miles, winch, new tires, 2up, clutch bearings and maintained by mechanic)

I'm leaning towards #2 or #3 because I will need 2up and a winch. I know I can buy those aftermarket but it's nice to have them fit in my budget from the start.

Thoughts???

 

The 650 Outlander is a much more exspensive ATV then the 500 also it has much more power 55hp vs 35hp.
The 650 is twin cylinder while the 500 is a single cylinder if that matters to you. Twin would be nice on high speed road rides.

M.S.R.P. for 2007 Outlander is $8,699.00
$7,399.00 for a 2012 500 touring.
But the 500 is 5 years newer with much less use.

I would play it safe and let condition decide. Look at them both.

Here are there side by side specs. http://www.atvreviewnetwork.com/enth...2=251438&go=Go

Why does a ATV with only 1500 miles need clutch bearings? That sounds odd.

 

Thanks for the post and the link. I really like the can-am.

As for clutch bearings, the guys a mechanic and has owned many can ams. He said the only thing he didn't like about the 650 was the way it shifted through the gears so he upgraded the bearings.

Doesn't matter anyways, he sold it for more then what he was asking last night.

It's a crazy market in Ontario right now. People are getting asking price or more. It's a bidding war.

If I don't find anything today I will hop on the Polaris and be done with it.

 

You can get a brand new Sportsman 500 for $6199 list price. Probably can get it down at least a couple hundred more. If you can do that, I'd go that direction, personally.

Polaris has a more comfortable ride. I've had both and give a slight edge to Polaris. Can-Am 650 has the HP of others' 700-800 class machines. It's pretty quick but has decent gas mileage. About the same as I had with my Polaris 500 machines. Polaris has a stronger frame than the Pre-2012 Can-Ams. In 2012 the redesigned the frame on the Renegade 800 and 1000 and the Outlander 800 and 1000. All the 2013s get the new frame except for the 400 Outlander. You can get a frame insert for the Can-Ams if you feel you want peace of mind about it. I did the insert on both our machines. Other difference is the engagement of the 4wd system. Polaris is pretty much as soon as there is a slight difference in how fast the front tires are spinning in relation to the rear tires. When it detects wheel spin in the rear it automatically sends power to the front. Can-Ams of that age are much more gradual engagement-wise. My son's 2009 takes a little more time than my 2012. I think it was around 2010 or 2011 when they recalibrated the system for quicker engagement. My 2012 is much improved over previous years. One other thing that pushed me towards the Outlander Max is rack space. When you put the passenger seat on the Polaris Touring you have very little space. On the Outty Max you still have a full rack's worth of space even with the passenger seat installed. Without a passenger there is a ton of space to tie things down.

Hope this helps.

 

That happens every spring ,Im from Ontario too (Sault Ste Marie). They do not sell cheap like used snowmobiles.

You will like the 500, good power and comfy. My Grizzly came with a windshield/frairing and I thought I would sell that along with the Passenger seat.
I tried it and like it for rain rides and cold fall rides and ducking behind it on bushy trail sections.

 

If you're riding 2-up you should have an ATV designed as a 2-up, not just some add-on seat that the manufacturers say isn't designed for a passenger anyway. The Sportsman Touring is supposed to have the most comfortable passenger seat and the smoothest ride. The 550 and 850 Touring are even better and come with EPS (electronic power steering) but cost a lot more.

 

No Luck!

Went to pick up the Polaris today, it's registered in Newfoundland. So no go unless they register it in Ontario.

Question...

Would you buy a 2010 Polaris with paint damage? There's one with low miles and a bunch of great options (box/plow/wheels) the owner said he took a 3000lb power washer to it and blasted the paint off. My concern is any seals or damage he may have done blasting the engine. Not to mention it doesn't look as nice. Either way I think I will pass.

 

You mean its still in N.F or its here in Ontario but just not registered in Ontario?

Is that a Big Deal? I live on a Ontario border town with Michigan and I know people who buy used ATVs there and its another country.

You just pay $250 at the border,thats the Federal GST/Duty part,then it needs a $70 look over at Canadian Tire for a rip off mechanical where they do not even take off the trailer and do it in the parking lot in 5 min , then it,s off to Service Ontario where you pay PST and get the Michigan title changed over to a new Ontario ownership. At least the new Ontario ownership is free.

You would think one from just a different province would be easier. Like a person moving from one province to the other and bringing his car or boat,ATV and sled alone with him.

No matter if you buy one from Ontario there not getting around the paying the taxes and getting the new ownership anyways.

 

It shouldn't be a big issue and probably isn't but my concern is, because the bike is so new that there may be lein's on it and I have no way to prove it and neither do they.

I would have no problem paying the tax. However I do have a question... do you pay tax on book value or the agreed price with the seller. I'm looking to save some tax on the price.

 

I always get a Lower *Wink* bill of sale on a private sale. You would have to call service ontario but on very new models they may use a book value system(Not sure).
Not fair if they do because I know a guy with a 2010 pick up that I would not buy for $2000 let alone its $15,000 book value because he trashed it so bad in his constuction business.

Same with ATVs how do they know what shape its in? I have seen 2002 ATVs in better shape and worth more then a 2010s ATV used by some teen aged mud bogging ditch jumper.

Its not like a Sevice Ontario will come over to see the machine for themself.

With 2007 Grizzly I bought it for $3200 last summer and bought a $2000 bill of sale in without a question.
Not sure if it would work on a 2011 Grizzly though.

Make sure the seller and you are both ok with it ,just incase Service Ontario calls you both to comfirm the sell price. Never happened to me but I heard of it.