After hearing so many people complain about ASR heim joints wearing out prematurely, I decieded to email the ebay sellers. The following is our communications:


I asked:

Several people on the ATV Connection Forums claim their ASR heim joints have worn out prematurely. What are the recommendation to prevent this?


Their response:

Hi! They did not wear prematurely. They (retail customers) were not accustomed to the amount of play that is in a metal to metal heimjoint. It allows the bike to turn super easily with no friction. ASR recently switched to a teflon lined heim joint because the average customer is used to the normal tightness a ball joint has. The downside is that the bike now turns only a little easier than a ball joint bike. However it still has more travel than the normal ball joint. A normal Moog Tie Rod End (ES2074R) is 36.95 to replace. ASR has their heims made and sells them cheaper than others. They are18.00 each. You can do the math. Add to that the fact that the moog ball joint is really a tie rod end and rated at only 6652 lbs, and thats scarry! The ASR ball joint is rated at 18,800 Lbs. Have nice evening!

 

Thanks for sharing that, DeanB...

I purchased a set of their uppers quite awhile back via ebay and still haven't put them on...mainly because I saw a couple sets at FSWII and noticed the issue with the worn "dry" heim joint on Eaglecollector's DS--and the lack of clearance between the shock and a-arm on ironrod's (aka, Mraky Nrak)...

Anyone else running these a-arms? If replacement heim/ball joints are only $18.00 per side I could see replacing them every year or so...what I'm getting at is the question...Performance? Do they make a worthwhile difference in the handling of the DS (01' model)? They are STILL in my garage! [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/img]

Jim

 

I asked a similar question to that already. Here is a link.

 

Do you by chance have the contacts name and number for this great deal.

 

Am I missing something...???

It seems they are saying, the replaced the older style heims with newer teflon lined components......

SO does this mean they've corrected the problem??
And installed a better heim?!?!

If so...
How do we tell if ours are the correct ones?!

And if not...
What am I missing here?!

And do we get our new (replacement) heims from them directly?!
And if the heims are the only issue (failing or breaking) with ASR arms... then why can't we just replace the heims with something TBR or another vendor/fabricator is using (besides the obvious - thread pitch, size or heim bolt...etc)?!


To answer a couple questions....
My ASR arms clear the shock... and don't hit it at all. I did however do a little grinding to be sure they would clear more than minimal. Issue resolved. They are adjustable enough to make steering A LOT better. That's the main reason I bought them.

 

Originally posted by: Eaglecollector
Do you by chance have the contacts name and number for this great deal.[/quote]

QuadPartsGuy@aol.com

 

1. Maybe?

2. If you think the old style is too loose, this should help.

3. Atleast a stiffer heim.

4. Not sure. I could post a picture of my new ones.

5. I think you've got it.

6. I don't know why they would not be willing to sell them directly.

7. That's what I was thinking too. They should not be that hard to come by.

 

a partner and myself hope to be manufacturing a line of ATV suspension products in the near future and from the research ive done the price on the new replacement hiem joints that ASR is offering is approximately a 5 dollar markup depending on the quantity purchased. for those of you hoping to replace your current hiems id just go with what ASR is offering so as to match teh thread and size.

 

Check out these Rod ends sites.

http://www.aedmotorsport.com/

http://www.aurorabearing.com/

Aurora is on all the extreme vehicles, and I will be trying the FK products on my next project.

jbt

 

aurora is about twice as much as the AED /FK stuff