To me, $750 for a carb/intake/cable - tuned for where I ride was worth every penny.

You can't count the CDI and End cap into the cost, because those are mandatory mods for a stock bike. Basically, we are dickering over $150 for professional expertise and dyno time.

The TM45 is probably the badest carb to grace the earch, however nobody appears to be selling them "properly tuned to your elevation" in a kit form for the DS. If they are, nobody on this site seems to be ranting and raving about this kit as much as they are for the HV.

Also, those HP #s aren't even doing the HVs torque curve justice. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

I can finely run side by side with my 115lb kid to the top of comp hill. I weigh 240lb and the kid rides a finely tuned Raptor (Read finely as 2 days of time trials and jetting changes).

I saved two days of tuning for $150 and thats assuming I was as proficient with and had the jets available at no cost to play with the Lectron.

GOOOOOOOOOOOOO TM --- but make mine a Lectron.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

jbt

 

Ironwood,

refer to:

"nobody on this site seems to be ranting and raving about this kit as much as they are for the HV"

focus on the words - kit - rant - rave - and "this site". They are the key points I'm trying to make.

I've laid low watching the mods folks are doing and I tryed to calculate and create a synthetic "$$ to [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]" ratio. Hopefully I've done this as factually as possible. My quest led me to dyno charts and a tuned Lecton. And it appears the kit I decided on doesn't have results that vary.

But I'm not saying there isn't better solutions out there, but I am saying the satisfied customers for this mod have created a interesting positive marketing campaign.

jbt

 

My bike will never be the fastest because I clock in at over 270lbs and I'm too cheap to spend 5K to make it the fastest... I just like to ride and make noise!!!! Love that White Bros R4!! [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]

So, I'm with DuneDevil....let's ride!

 

>>TM45 guys and the HV46 guys

If we didn't have different manufacturers pushing the limits of "go fast" it wouldn't be America.

Bottom line is -- Its all in the name of Bombs squashing little quads. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

Beers!

jbt

 

The TM45 would not take throttle at all out of the box from Ron Wood with the snorkel - we had to run it with a direct mount.
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We were running the HMF pipe - and that was 1 hp gain at peak on the tm45 out of the box with direct mount filter. Most of the graph was below stock power. The thing is, the carb ran and seemed to be fine so average Joe would not have tuned on it beyond this if he weren't on a dyno.
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That was rear wheel horsepower. 2004 out of the crate. We have never dyno'ed a stock bike with that much power ( and we've dyno'ed a few!). It was a cold crisp day, perfect for power. We will be looking into what changes Bombardier made in the carbs/intake/snorkel/air box! In the meantime, the price of that bike went up! Any bids [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

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this dyno repeats within one horsepower normally, especially on STD power and torque. But you are right, the difference in power is the important thing. The strange thing is, the Mr Horsepower setup made the same power it always makes on the dyno, albeit it was a little rich on air/fuel that day.

You made a very good point on peak numbers and mid numbers and how far it carries the peak horsepower.

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It would not be unusual to see 46 hp out of a tm45 on alcohol. According to Mr Horsepower's research, just one or two jets off, and you can kill up to 10 hp on this carb.

222

 

[quote]
Originally posted by: Ward660R
Yes, the Aledo dyno was reading low. There can also be a big difference in SAE, Actual, STD power. Make sure we are looking at the same corrected graphs