ProKiwi -
Yes you will have more gains...Why your dynoing showed such results from what you've done could prolly be debated by a million people all day, but fact is you've done part of what was done in this testing but not all, with also the addition of the CDI and advanced timing. I just know from my personal experience that when I did what you did I felt good about the bike's power, and later when I added the carb I felt even better. The biggest gain I first felt from the carb was the super response - the ease of wheelies, popping over logs and ruts has never been easier. Now I can't speak for Lecrton throttle response, and hardly anobody else on this forum runs a properly tuned TM with accel pumper or they'd have been all over these debates too, so you may never know which one slams the front end up the easiest - your guess is as good as anybody's and I won't Pretend to know the true answer, although I'm sure somebody will!

And Mudstud - as for the Lectron being tuned right outa the box and the TM needing an hour to get where it belonged, well don't forget the Lectron HAD to be tuned sometime or another, by somebody - that's you guy's validation of the price, remember? THEBOM did his tuning right there, and it shows it can be done in under an hour, and all the Dynos around me charge $50-$60 an hour.

I think the tests were awesome, and the outcome shows that there are two carbs out there with equal HP potential that fit the needs of two difference groups, there's room enough for both in the DS world. (yes, its me posting props!)

And I was prolly outa line when I tried to get the MRHP secret rod number revealed in the other post, I was treating him like a WalMart or a Yamaha shop instead of a fellow forum member, and for that I appologize MRHP.

 

Well i have rested and heres what i came away with [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

1. I do not feel any carb was better than the other just conds if that makes sence.

2.The true differance was in MRHP end cap and intake he had some of the best porting i have ever seen and his end cap definetly is better than a slip on and i belive its also one of the sharpest caps i have seen.

3.I belive if you can't tune your own then the 46hv is the way to go!!!

4.I belive if you have your own tuning ability there are several other lectrons that will rival or outdo the 46HV

5.And i could not get my carbs on the plane because they could not identifiey what they were made of. And one of the guard said they looked like they contained magniseium [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/img] And i did not put up a real fight because those guy's have a tough job to do and i was just out playing around anyway's.And belive it or not i do like to choose my battles

6.And cold weather dose yeild better #'s than we get in arizona 46hp out of a stock bike wow!!! we did one just last week at 39.7hp
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What was the end jeting of the TM 45, needle number, clip loc, pilot jet, main jet and accel nozzle number (if accel pump was used)
I ended up geting a TM 45 carb, found one rather cheap.
Was looking to set my DS up about the same way you had that 04 DS, and want to get my jeting close before I installed it.

 

Dsguybomb the pump nozzle you must have is the #50, the 60 and 70 are both too rich. the travel limits need set to allow for a small squirt right off idle and kinda short in duration, trial and error can get you there. They used no pumper in this testing. If you wanna use the pumper you will have to use a twist throttle unless you do some spring modifications - its the only pitfall here but worth the bother. Look up an old post about pumper made easy for thumb throttles for explanation.
There's fabbing to do with both carbs - gotta mess with spring manipulation on the Mikuni, or throttle rigging in the Lectron - its 6 of one, 1/2 dozen of the other....

 

222 says, according to the dyno, the stock air box and lid are better for the stock vacuum carb only. aftermarket non-CV carbs made more power without airbox.

 

I know on the predator dynos, that if you take the snorkle off. And do a bolt-on you will lose 3 H.P. on these stock CV carbs.

later

 

Thats alot of lose. Sure glad I didnt get the direct mount airfilter for mine.

This question is for you that have the lectron. Are you running a outerwears over the K+n, or are you just running the k+n?

 

i was wanting to know if anyone new the end result setup on the mikuni 45. (clip position,main and pilot jet,)

 

I run the notoil filter on mine. I know that doesn't answer your question though.

 

i plan on it. i think the filter would end up looking like part of a sand castle with out it. especially with no box.