power to weight ratio
#31
power to weight ratio
Originally posted by: blownstroker
If you add the same rider to each quad the power to weight would stay very close to the same in relationship to each other.
If you add the same rider to each quad the power to weight would stay very close to the same in relationship to each other.
If you really want to get technical about it, do the Hp & torque numbers, gear ratios to tires, traction, ect. Put them in a sliding scale and then see who is "supposed" to win. Me....I will just go ride and race someone if i want to and if I win I will smile and move on. But I am slow and fat so I dont smile much [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
#32
power to weight ratio
Originally posted by: DemonDS
That it would!!
If you really want to get technical about it, do the Hp & torque numbers, gear ratios to tires, traction, ect. Put them in a sliding scale and then see who is "supposed" to win. Me....I will just go ride and race someone if i want to and if I win I will smile and move on. But I am slow and fat so I dont smile much [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
Originally posted by: blownstroker
If you add the same rider to each quad the power to weight would stay very close to the same in relationship to each other.
If you add the same rider to each quad the power to weight would stay very close to the same in relationship to each other.
If you really want to get technical about it, do the Hp & torque numbers, gear ratios to tires, traction, ect. Put them in a sliding scale and then see who is "supposed" to win. Me....I will just go ride and race someone if i want to and if I win I will smile and move on. But I am slow and fat so I dont smile much [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
#34
power to weight ratio
Originally posted by: DemonDS
That it would!!
If you really want to get technical about it, do the Hp & torque numbers, gear ratios to tires, traction, ect. Put them in a sliding scale and then see who is "supposed" to win. Me....I will just go ride and race someone if i want to and if I win I will smile and move on. But I am slow and fat so I dont smile much [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
Originally posted by: blownstroker
If you add the same rider to each quad the power to weight would stay very close to the same in relationship to each other.
If you add the same rider to each quad the power to weight would stay very close to the same in relationship to each other.
If you really want to get technical about it, do the Hp & torque numbers, gear ratios to tires, traction, ect. Put them in a sliding scale and then see who is "supposed" to win. Me....I will just go ride and race someone if i want to and if I win I will smile and move on. But I am slow and fat so I dont smile much [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
#35
power to weight ratio
Originally posted by: 2BIG2BFAST
Hey choose since im sitting on70 hp on motor alone without the funny gas and my bike weighs 500 and i weigh 300 with the weight to hp ratio i should be right around the original stock horsepower rite[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img] [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
Hey choose since im sitting on70 hp on motor alone without the funny gas and my bike weighs 500 and i weigh 300 with the weight to hp ratio i should be right around the original stock horsepower rite[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img] [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
I know the feeling.. my bike is heavier than a stocker, and I'm 280lbs.. after all the work on my bike I had to port it before it would start to pull away from a stocker with a normal sized rider on it. Feels good when you start to see your making up for all the weight.
I know wieght is a factor because I've tested it dozens of times... race someone on another V... switch bikes and race again. I would get beat both times, on my bike and on theirs... the riders were in general 80 to 100 pounds lighter.
#36
power to weight ratio
Originally posted by: CountryJoeGlass
If you really want to make it fair then figure a average size pilot on each bike, say 175lbs & see where the #'s stack up. Bikes don't pilot themselves you know.
Originally posted by: boat
I do have the figures for you with no rider on them so it can be fair
make/model.............size...weight...power.....p/to/w stock...A DS needs this much hp to = each bike
stock BRP DS...........650......470......38hp...........12.3 6
stock Yamaha yfz....450......350.......39.9hp.........8.93..... .....................52.59hp
stock Honda trx......450.......363.......40.1hp.........9.05.. ........................51.89hp
sparks 502 yfz........502.......299.......64.9hp.........4.60 ..........................102.1hp
blaster hill shooter.398........241.......57.6hp.........4.18.. ........................112.36hp
z1 hill shooter......1075.......407......117.1hp.........3 .47.........................135.35hp
These are the #'s and they dont lie
I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THE FACTS! PERIOD!
I do have the figures for you with no rider on them so it can be fair
make/model.............size...weight...power.....p/to/w stock...A DS needs this much hp to = each bike
stock BRP DS...........650......470......38hp...........12.3 6
stock Yamaha yfz....450......350.......39.9hp.........8.93..... .....................52.59hp
stock Honda trx......450.......363.......40.1hp.........9.05.. ........................51.89hp
sparks 502 yfz........502.......299.......64.9hp.........4.60 ..........................102.1hp
blaster hill shooter.398........241.......57.6hp.........4.18.. ........................112.36hp
z1 hill shooter......1075.......407......117.1hp.........3 .47.........................135.35hp
These are the #'s and they dont lie
I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THE FACTS! PERIOD!
If you really want to make it fair then figure a average size pilot on each bike, say 175lbs & see where the #'s stack up. Bikes don't pilot themselves you know.
Boat here are the corrected #'s with a 175lb pilot.
figures with a 175lb rider on them so it can be fair
make/model................size...weight...power........ ...p/to/w stock...A DS needs this much hp to = each bike
stock BRP DS...............650......470......44.0hp......... 14.65
stock Yamaha yfz........450......350......39.9hp.........13.29. .......................48.53hp
stock Honda trx...........450.....363.......40.1hp........13.4 1........................48.09hp
sparks 502 yfz.............502.....299.......64.9hp.........7 .30.........................88.35hp
blaster hill shooter......398.....241.......57.6hp..........7.2 2.........................89.33hp
z1 hill shooter............1075.....407.....117.1hp....... ..4.97.......................129.77hp
Sandbombers HPR 800.....339.....123.0hp..........4.17............. ..........154.67hp
These are the #'s with a 175lb pilot on each bike.
figures with a 175lb rider on them so it can be fair
Sandbombers lighten OEM stock frame with a stock DS motor.
make/model............................size...weight...p ower................................p/to/w stock...A DS needs this much hp to = each bike
Bombers lighten OEM frame....650......339.......44.0hp................ ............11.68
stock Yamaha yfz....................450......350.......39.9hp.. ..........................13.29................... 38.67hp
stock Honda trx......................450......363.......40.1hp .............................13.41................ ...38.32hp
sparks 502 yfz........................502......299.......64.9 hp..............................7.30.............. .....70.41hp
blaster hill shooter.................398......241.......57.6hp. .............................7.22................. ..71.19hp
z1 hill shooter......................1075......407......11 7.1hp.............................4.97............ ......103.42hp
Sandbombers HPR800........800......339......123.0hp........... ..................4.17..................123.0.hp
These are the #'s with a 175lb pilot on each bike.
Boat
What does all this mean? Nothing, racing on the track, the hill is where you win or lose. Key board racing
doesn't count for anything.
#38
power to weight ratio
Originally posted by: boat
My point is power to weight wins races
My point is power to weight wins races
Bottom line is all the quads have their own perfect place and comparing them is futile, waste of time, and useless nonsense.
#39
#40
power to weight ratio
The 20mill hill shee is being built for the first big weekend next year at Sand Mt. We will be testing a new frame so the power will be there and hap will be able to tell us if the frame makes it LOL
The DS will be in the in the oem frame like it is now but with the 850 power plant so *** GET YOU SUM!!!![img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
The DS will be in the in the oem frame like it is now but with the 850 power plant so *** GET YOU SUM!!!![img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]