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Originally posted by: DSNUT
Thanks TPR. Good info. It is strange that the stuff is so brittle, yet if it is thin enough to bend back and forth, you can do that almost indefinitely. Most metal will break on the 3rd or 4th bend, Ti just keeps going back and forth and if you straighten it back out, it hasen't really lost any strength.
I have to be honest, the stuff makes my scratch my head.......
Thanks TPR. Good info. It is strange that the stuff is so brittle, yet if it is thin enough to bend back and forth, you can do that almost indefinitely. Most metal will break on the 3rd or 4th bend, Ti just keeps going back and forth and if you straighten it back out, it hasen't really lost any strength.
I have to be honest, the stuff makes my scratch my head.......
That's the mystery behind the metal. It has great fatigue properties, but made thicker to create a ridgid piece and you can run into trouble, plus I think that it can't be heat treated either. I'll talk to him on Christmas to see what the best uses are on an ATV.
Put this into perspective, there is a material called Airmat (Spelling may be off) It was originally used for angioplaste tools as it can be made micro thin, and razor sharp. It is flexible and returns to shape easy and holds it's sharpness better than stainless.
The largest user of Airmat outside of the medical industry is the racing industry. Indycar and I think even nascar axles and driveshafts can be made of the stuff. Penske started to use it and would make an axle, bore out the center and fill it with magnesium because they thought the mag would keep the tube from crushing. Well it turns out that it was not necessary. The airmat allows an axle tube to twist 180 degrees and snap back to form over and over, even without the mag filler, so now the axles are superlight and rarely do you hear of them snapping axles, and the beating a tranny gets is lessened because the axles give a bit till fully engaged.
If a company like Gorilla wants to make an indestructible axle for a quad or side by side, they should look into Airmat. Interesting stuff.
TPR
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Originally posted by: TPR
That's the mystery behind the metal. It has great fatigue properties, but made thicker to create a ridgid piece and you can run into trouble, plus I think that it can't be heat treated either. I'll talk to him on Christmas to see what the best uses are on an ATV.
Put this into perspective, there is a material called Airmat (Spelling may be off) It was originally used for angioplaste tools as it can be made micro thin, and razor sharp. It is flexible and returns to shape easy and holds it's sharpness better than stainless.
The largest user of Airmat outside of the medical industry is the racing industry. Indycar and I think even nascar axles and driveshafts can be made of the stuff. Penske started to use it and would make an axle, bore out the center and fill it with magnesium because they thought the mag would keep the tube from crushing. Well it turns out that it was not necessary. The airmat allows an axle tube to twist 180 degrees and snap back to form over and over, even without the mag filler, so now the axles are superlight and rarely do you hear of them snapping axles, and the beating a tranny gets is lessened because the axles give a bit till fully engaged.
If a company like Gorilla wants to make an indestructible axle for a quad or side by side, they should look into Airmat. Interesting stuff.
TPR
Originally posted by: DSNUT
Thanks TPR. Good info. It is strange that the stuff is so brittle, yet if it is thin enough to bend back and forth, you can do that almost indefinitely. Most metal will break on the 3rd or 4th bend, Ti just keeps going back and forth and if you straighten it back out, it hasen't really lost any strength.
I have to be honest, the stuff makes my scratch my head.......
Thanks TPR. Good info. It is strange that the stuff is so brittle, yet if it is thin enough to bend back and forth, you can do that almost indefinitely. Most metal will break on the 3rd or 4th bend, Ti just keeps going back and forth and if you straighten it back out, it hasen't really lost any strength.
I have to be honest, the stuff makes my scratch my head.......
That's the mystery behind the metal. It has great fatigue properties, but made thicker to create a ridgid piece and you can run into trouble, plus I think that it can't be heat treated either. I'll talk to him on Christmas to see what the best uses are on an ATV.
Put this into perspective, there is a material called Airmat (Spelling may be off) It was originally used for angioplaste tools as it can be made micro thin, and razor sharp. It is flexible and returns to shape easy and holds it's sharpness better than stainless.
The largest user of Airmat outside of the medical industry is the racing industry. Indycar and I think even nascar axles and driveshafts can be made of the stuff. Penske started to use it and would make an axle, bore out the center and fill it with magnesium because they thought the mag would keep the tube from crushing. Well it turns out that it was not necessary. The airmat allows an axle tube to twist 180 degrees and snap back to form over and over, even without the mag filler, so now the axles are superlight and rarely do you hear of them snapping axles, and the beating a tranny gets is lessened because the axles give a bit till fully engaged.
If a company like Gorilla wants to make an indestructible axle for a quad or side by side, they should look into Airmat. Interesting stuff.
TPR
That is amazing! 180 degrees of axle flex on a 700+ hp machine! [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-blush.gif[/img]
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Originally posted by: DSNUT
That is amazing! 180 degrees of axle flex on a 700+ hp machine! [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-blush.gif[/img]
Originally posted by: TPR
That's the mystery behind the metal. It has great fatigue properties, but made thicker to create a ridgid piece and you can run into trouble, plus I think that it can't be heat treated either. I'll talk to him on Christmas to see what the best uses are on an ATV.
Put this into perspective, there is a material called Airmat (Spelling may be off) It was originally used for angioplaste tools as it can be made micro thin, and razor sharp. It is flexible and returns to shape easy and holds it's sharpness better than stainless.
The largest user of Airmat outside of the medical industry is the racing industry. Indycar and I think even nascar axles and driveshafts can be made of the stuff. Penske started to use it and would make an axle, bore out the center and fill it with magnesium because they thought the mag would keep the tube from crushing. Well it turns out that it was not necessary. The airmat allows an axle tube to twist 180 degrees and snap back to form over and over, even without the mag filler, so now the axles are superlight and rarely do you hear of them snapping axles, and the beating a tranny gets is lessened because the axles give a bit till fully engaged.
If a company like Gorilla wants to make an indestructible axle for a quad or side by side, they should look into Airmat. Interesting stuff.
TPR
Originally posted by: DSNUT
Thanks TPR. Good info. It is strange that the stuff is so brittle, yet if it is thin enough to bend back and forth, you can do that almost indefinitely. Most metal will break on the 3rd or 4th bend, Ti just keeps going back and forth and if you straighten it back out, it hasen't really lost any strength.
I have to be honest, the stuff makes my scratch my head.......
Thanks TPR. Good info. It is strange that the stuff is so brittle, yet if it is thin enough to bend back and forth, you can do that almost indefinitely. Most metal will break on the 3rd or 4th bend, Ti just keeps going back and forth and if you straighten it back out, it hasen't really lost any strength.
I have to be honest, the stuff makes my scratch my head.......
That's the mystery behind the metal. It has great fatigue properties, but made thicker to create a ridgid piece and you can run into trouble, plus I think that it can't be heat treated either. I'll talk to him on Christmas to see what the best uses are on an ATV.
Put this into perspective, there is a material called Airmat (Spelling may be off) It was originally used for angioplaste tools as it can be made micro thin, and razor sharp. It is flexible and returns to shape easy and holds it's sharpness better than stainless.
The largest user of Airmat outside of the medical industry is the racing industry. Indycar and I think even nascar axles and driveshafts can be made of the stuff. Penske started to use it and would make an axle, bore out the center and fill it with magnesium because they thought the mag would keep the tube from crushing. Well it turns out that it was not necessary. The airmat allows an axle tube to twist 180 degrees and snap back to form over and over, even without the mag filler, so now the axles are superlight and rarely do you hear of them snapping axles, and the beating a tranny gets is lessened because the axles give a bit till fully engaged.
If a company like Gorilla wants to make an indestructible axle for a quad or side by side, they should look into Airmat. Interesting stuff.
TPR
That is amazing! 180 degrees of axle flex on a 700+ hp machine! [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-blush.gif[/img]
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