performax, this is exactly what dirt wheels said.febuary 2001 edition,page 46.under final thoughts.Out in the giant Dumont Dunes in southern california and later on the trails,nearly all of our test riders preferred the graydon raptor 660 over the graydon bombardier ds650.OF COURSE,THAT PROBABLY HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE FACT THAT THE raptor HAS QUITE A FEW MORE DOLLARS IN IT-THE SHOCKS.A-ARMS,AND AXLE ALL ADD UP TO AROUND 2800.00.BOTH HAVE ABOUT THE SAME AMOUNT OF POWER AND SPEED,but the handling on the REBUILT raptor allows for much more aggressive riding.end of quote!! What that tells me is just to be able to test that junker with our ds's,they had to put almost 3 grand in it and for another thing! put 3 grand in our suspension and it would get real ugly 4 ya.Now i gotta go cause my damn fingers hurt from type'n angry. DS'S rule!!!

 

Thats a shame,because that's not even with the pipe!For some $reason$ the magazines have not even really mentioned that the DS won its class in the Baja 2000.I think that they will eventually have to come clean about the DS.

 

no **** that magizine pisses me off, the CRAPTOR has $2800 of mods well it needs it cause it's junk i own one it's my wifes we traded in her blaster 4 it cause the craptor has elect start and reverse and it looks cool. put ron woods stage3 kit, cts shocks, alba a-arms then compare them, just cause yamahahahaha advertises more they hipe up the CRAPTOR POS that it is, oh by the way the new bmw f 650 has efi but its not the same motor so no efi for us sorry guys

 

SWEN, Go for the DS650 it's agreat machine.Yes I can tell you the Ds is a stronger machine than any Yamaha out there, I've been riding with banshees riders and most agree that the Ds is built stronger.I remember one day when I watched a guy nearly break his leg when a footpeg broke off the banshee as he landed the same jump the Ds has done many times w/o failure of any kind.
AND the DS650 does beat a stock banshee.

 

I have videos of the stock DS versus a piped and jetted Banshee. All I have to say is any given Sunday.....

http://www.insurtecinc.com/langley/bombardier.htm

 

Well,I just got the new ATV Sport,and I will give them credit for printing the Baja 2000 winner DS 650.It's about time.They also have a great fold out poster of the DS 650.I dont know about their radar ?readings? on the DS,(top speed of 68 for both the DS and Raptor).Everybody must be testing in very different conditions, because of all the conflicting speeds and dynoe readings they are printing.HMMMMMMMMMM