Hmmm, another 450 coming out. Decisions-decisions. I wonder how good of a trail bike it will be. I looked at the new Kawie 450 the other day, sweet looking machine, seemed smaller than a Z, maybe it was just me. (It was sitting next to a Renegade...I'd like one of those, but just alittle out of my price range!)
I'm thinking of picking a 450 up this year, can't wait to see how this one turns out.

 

I guess my victories on my YFZ against LTR and the others are second rate, too. Thanks.
Pretty stupid comment from a dummy. <div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: fourlix

So what's the Suzuki LTR-450? Chopped Liver? IT is the only 450 you don't have to buy A-arms for, and it is the only 450 with EFI. The Yamaha and the Honda are second rate. The only real competition for the Can-Am is the Suzuki. And the Can-Am is 25 lbs lighter. spec for spec, that makes the Honda and Yamaha tied for third place.
A lot of Yamaha and Honda riders are brand loyal to the point of being dumb, blind and stupid.</end quote></div>

 

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: mudnuri

I guess my victories on my YFZ against LTR and the others are second rate, too. Thanks.

Pretty stupid comment from a dummy. <div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: fourlix



So what's the Suzuki LTR-450? Chopped Liver? IT is the only 450 you don't have to buy A-arms for, and it is the only 450 with EFI. The Yamaha and the Honda are second rate. The only real competition for the Can-Am is the Suzuki. And the Can-Am is 25 lbs lighter. spec for spec, that makes the Honda and Yamaha tied for third place.

A lot of Yamaha and Honda riders are brand loyal to the point of being dumb, blind and stupid.</end quote></div></end quote></div>

Is your YFZ stock? He was talking stock for stock. Also, could it be more you being better to?

 

I'm really just breaking his *****. I don't even know him to call hm a dummy. hehehe
If he knows me from here, he knows I got rid of my DS because I was sick of losing XC racing. The YFZ changed everything. And I never need reverse when racing.
I have said it before, when they(Can-AM) produce a XC/MX machine, I will own one. This looks like a good one [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
p.s. No matter how "race ready" a company produces a machine, to be competetive, you will need to depend on aftermarket products. Myself, my machine has several mods to make the ride as smooth as possible, but stock engine. My DS had several mods similar to my YFZ. It was a badd **** machine, too. Just too wide.

 

It's been awhile since I've posted, but this just might be worth it. I could care less about the reverse vs. no-reverse thing, I really wish it was an all new DS650 we were talking about. My biggest question goes out to all the riders of current model 450's. I know it's personal preference, but at what point is a rider's size going to be a factor on a smaller 450 vs. the cadilac DS650. How big are some of you? I've only ridden a yfz450 a couple of times and it just felt small. Do you get used to it or are smaller people just happier on smaller bikes? I'm 6'4" 220lbs, how many people this size would buy a smaller bike?

 

i love the room on the ds. the 450's and even the raptor were to small for me and im 6' 220. if the ds450 is as comfy as the 650 i would buy one. but more than likely it wont be.

 

Wow, I like how my post was deleted, how about a pm.

 

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: ChiliCon

It's been awhile since I've posted, but this just might be worth it. I could care less about the reverse vs. no-reverse thing, I really wish it was an all new DS650 we were talking about. My biggest question goes out to all the riders of current model 450's. I know it's personal preference, but at what point is a rider's size going to be a factor on a smaller 450 vs. the cadilac DS650. How big are some of you? I've only ridden a yfz450 a couple of times and it just felt small. Do you get used to it or are smaller people just happier on smaller bikes? I'm 6'4" 220lbs, how many people this size would buy a smaller bike?</end quote></div>

ChiliCon,

I had a DS and an EX for years. The DS is really a cruiser for sure. I liked the EX after I built it up it was a lot better to handle in the tight turns and trails. Now I know that rubs DS people raw. You can ride the DS in tight trails, but steering with my **** all the time was just a lot more work - to the point of cardiac arrest! The lighter bikes have thier own appeal since you can very easily point that front end in any direction and just go. The lighter ones wont dig in the sand as much either. So, if you get yourself down in a tight hill climp, the lighter ones wont bury themselves nearly as often. As far as dune jumping from razor backs, the smaller ones just seem to leap off that edge, rather than cut it down in the process. The problem with big guys on the smaller quads is that they are tippy. Im a big guy, and my EX needed to be another 1-2 inches wide for me. Once in a while she would go over - very scary on a DS, but no big deal on a lighter quad - The EX would just roll right over and no big deal, just a little emabarrasing though.

The lighter ones generally have seats that suck, but the Banshee seat is awesome so it can be done. After working with seats for sleds for a while, All it takes is a bit of engineering with foam to get that right. I hope they figure that out before it gets a bad rap like the YFZ did.

 

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: JMann2380

Wow, I like how my post was deleted, how about a pm.</end quote></div>

JMann if you linked to your forum site they will pull the plug. Any links to other forum sites outside of PM will be deleted. Most forum sites do this though you probably don't.


TPR

 

Hey guys new to the forum.

Has anyone seen any kinda spec sheet on the width or anything?

Looking at the frame two things stuck out.
1) The position of the pegs in relation to the swing arm pivot point. The pegs are in line with the the pivot point which from what I understand makes for a well balanced bike.
2) The mounting positions for the upper shock mounts. The front upper shock mounts appear (I say again appear) to be really high. The back appears, also, to be very high almost under the seat. Without seeing anything else this is oviousy good. Means longer shocks.

Right now Yamaha has the best rear shock setup using a 19"-19.5" long shock. The stuff that rear shock all the way up.

No link like the DS650 maybe....?

Just my 2 cents.