all bow down to TPR's vision of future ATVs

 

AZ - I would have liked to have been there. It is always exciting to lock-in your eyes on some new Strange!

Don't get me wrong. I want to see the bike and would love to ride one. . . I'm just thinking it isn't the bike for me and it won't be the bike for about 95% of the DS guys. I think they may have a killer product but, they are going to have a tougher go of it.

As TPR said, I'm sure others are working on their 4fiddys to improve them so, even with all this innovation, in another year the market will have stiff competition.

Glad to see they are out. BRP blew their wad on all the release hype. The bike should have been at the dealer the next week IMO. They just gave the competition about a 4 month head start on R&D for how to copy it.

I'll try to make it by my local dealer and take a look.

 

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: deanz400

all bow down to TPR's vision of future ATVs</end quote></div>

Just be careful, his fingers aren't on the pulse anymore. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img]

 

We were 1st fully introduce to the DS450 back in early June. This is starting to feel like the Tcat

 

Ok let me clear one thing up once and for all....I AM NOT TIMMY FROM TIMMY BOY DESIGNS, that is Tim Neidhart and I'm not sure if he is even involved in the atv scene much these days. He was working for IShock for a minute but that's the last I heard of him.

Dune Me, I speak to alot of industry people, typically they don't or can't say much but I have figured out a way to read people and ask the right questions to get responses that will allow me to make detirminations on what is possible and what is not. Then I look at what the specific manufacturer is doing in their R&D and apply common sense to the potential application and need to the ATV segment.

That's how I was able to call out the Raptor 700 when no one had a clue about it. There is a certian pulse and vibe one can read to get information without it being spoken.

As for KTM getting to market their quads, let's get somthing straight, there is nothing revolutionary about that quad. The frame is chrome moly, true, but there is nothing new about the geometry, matter of fact there is alot of old in it. They did add all kinds of goodies as is the KTM tradition and I would be the first to say that if there was no DS450, my next quad would be a KTM. They are very nice.

Will they sell more in 2008? I have no idea, but Can-Am has so much invested in this project they have to get it right the first time, so now there are people starting to get their quads and so far all those I correspond with say this is the best stock quad they have ridden to date.

TPR

 

I will second TPR... I said in a post not long about the fact that that the KTM is still friggin Carburated and for the price......WTF? i dont really consider a 9000.00 dollar quad with a flatslide and tube frame ground breaking? first of all it has the ugliest rear end in the world as i have seen it in person. And lastly when i was talking to the KTM factory rep standing next to his big 18 wheeler and orange trailer With KTM painted all over, he stated to me with his chest puffed up like a proud daddy that this is the lightest production 450 available.......hmmmmmm? now why would this guy say this i thought? I thought about it and realizing that this was not some guy who just got hired in at the local dealership selling quads who was DJ'ing at the local strip club last week (but lost that gig when he went on a 4 day bender) this was a factory guy. I have been following this ds450 hype since its inception and still have plans of possibly owning one so i knew that this guy was dead wrong about the weight thing. after closer inspection by my buddy who was on a predator he said you know the rear end looks just like mine..... and you know what? it pretty much was! very cutting edge[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/img] I dont have an answer as to why the guy hyped me up with bad info other than he had to, as there is really nothing great about the quad other that it comes outfitted with high end additions and it is KTM's first go at a quad... At that time i lost interest in it and really think it is a joke... The power plant is the only portion of it that i would care for. jm2c

 

TPR, i miss the masterful and well composed literary works on here! it has gotten a little boring lately with the 'what's faster' threads. I dont recall you mentioning the 700R first (can you name the date and time of that proclaimation?!), but i'll take your word for it havent found much that you missed. EFI is the fututre so i would not be suprised with EFI bikes from yamaha then honda. its odd that more EFI utility bikes exist than sport models. id love to see a dual exhaust 450R. id love to see a 500+ twin banshee..yeah, let me stir that one up again! i still want to see a lighter weight 4x4 renegade type machine with a manual tranny.

keep us posted with your secret insider intelligence briefings.

TPR is....secret agent man!

 

lighter weight 4x4 renegade with man. tranny? Im listening

 

thats on my wish list. i hope CAN-AM listens too!

 

i could dig a 550lbs 4x4 renegade with 62ponies. or throw a 1000rotax in it. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]