First off i don't own a BRP Renegade or Outlander are any of the can Am product's , but like all manufacturers they sometime's get a bad batch of steel that are used in all part's of the frame , as well as steall the use in the engine part's like camshaft's crankshaft's and valves rocker arms and timing , chains and timing gear's as well !

But when this happen's and people start bringing in unit's from the production dates these unit's came from , they're suppose to give them a strenth test ; and if they don't meet the Quality control they're suppose to do a recall on these manufactured date's and fix them even if ti's take's a frame replacement !

But most try everthing they can do to determine that it was caused by rider abuse , all brand's do it untill an indepent company that had nonthing to gain ; run these structure test's and release their finding to the public unless you have Dealer who is an expert on design engeering who will go to bat for them on problem like these !

But most Dealership's have an expert engineer , but i have an actic cat dealer whi is an expert engneer who built her dirtbike and fould flaw's in design as well as weakened steel ; when building bike's of other racers machine's and helped them sometime's when the maufacturer would take car of the bike for the customer's !

She would buil a frame and set up their bike's to with stand what they go through when racing , even after she open her first shop her she sold MTM race ready bike all the young up and coming motocross racer's would gather at her shop to have her setup their bike for them ; and she not only do the work she would how to set uo a bike then she would supervice and watch for one the make a mistake then she step in and show them what they did wrong !


Even a recall could take along time even , after they are threated by the Federal safety Comission to go over all the part's the metal involved is caused by poor steel and workmanship ; and by this time it could take years before anything is done !

Sorry to hear of you problems and i hope BRP does the right thing by you , and take's care of it under warranty some will and some won't !.

And there is one other thing i forgot to mention is that when the Renegaude or outlander where out for their torture terrain test's t they had to let the rider's make onsigt mod's done to them , as well as having the best skid plate's and body armor to the quad's they rode in these all terrain test challenge ; before they would agree to ride the mahine's they lent their name to !...........

 

I've uploaded some photos of where the frame is bent for you non-believers, and you'll notice it's bent right behind where the frame is reinforced, that should be a clue. Oh and by the way, the front wheel was bumped by a kfx 400, and I think anyone would agree the damage was caused from the torque against the frame caused by the front right wheel hitting a tree. One more thing, if the frame isn't weak in that spot, why is there a reinforcement right in front of it, and how come it didn't bend there? Oh and I took it to the dealership today and was told I was the third one to have that problem that they knew of, and that's just one dealership, BIG SURPRISE. Furthermore, agreed if anyhing was going to give, it should have been the replaceable a arms to bend, not the strongest part of the four wheeler, well not what should be the strongest part of a quad. Who would ever imagine having a frame that bends before the a arms. If the frame on your car was the first thing to bend in an accident where you were driving through a parking lot at 6mph, a really expensive top of the line car no less, I'm guessing most of you would be okay with that from the sounds of it. One more thing, you'll notice the Ricochet skid firmly in place underneath where it is bent. You should be able to find the photos under my photos.

 

One day it's a Brute Force, the next a KFX that rammed you. The least you could do is get your story straight. And you wonder why anyone would not believe.

Pictures are worthless since we have no real idea of what happened. The story is ever changing, important details have been left out.

 

Just for comparison, I let a "buddy" ride my scrambler back in Aug. 07, and he buried the throttle on a long straight and then tried to take a corner that i had begged him not to try b4 he got on it. He didn't make the corner, the quad climbed up on the berm at about 55-60mph and then <u>almost</u> cleared a 10' span with no berm. When the bike got to the other side of the void, the first thing to stike the berm was the right front tire. The following carnage was a terrible thing to watch and placed my friend in the hospital. The bike did about 13 flips down the road and my friend did about 4. The right front A-arm was broken into 2 pieces, the steering arm was folded as well as handlebars and all the plastic. I took it to the shop fully expecting to hear the thing was totalled due to bent frame, but the frame was not bent. I thought it was amazing! It had every right to be broken/ bent.

I love my renegade, but I bet the SST would not take a hit like that. I just cant' stand the thought of riding anything else though, so I will accept it for what it is and enjoy mine until I have a problem.

 

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Topgun1

One day it's a Brute Force, the next a KFX 700 that rammed you. The least you could do is get your story straight. And you wonder why anyone would not believe.



Pictures are worthless since we have no real idea of what happened. The story is ever changing, important details have been left out.</end quote></div>




I have no idea where you got that from? Dont remember ever saying it was a Brute Force that bumped into me after. Tell you what, why dont you call my dealer and you can ask them how come the frame bent and nothing else? Idiot. Wait better yet, why don't you ask them how many people have had the same problem, just at their dealership alone, that has probably only sold a dozen or so of them to begin with since 2007. I guess those other three people were just making it up and wanted to leave there machine there to have the frame replaced just because. Oh and from what I was told, Can Am did cover one of those. I have hope still. Hmm, Can Am covered one of the bent frames under warrany no less. Wonder why??

 

i plan to unless i find alot of cases of this
i do not go crazy on them but i know i will hit a tree or something one day like most people
now my dad is crazy if there is a proplem he will find it he told me when he was a kid he took a turn on a trail and was going to fast . he had to jump off because his dirt bike went over a 20 foot cliff

 

Hey I'm planning on keeping mine despite what happened too, but you better believe I'm going to get collision on it now, never had to worry about having collision on an atv before. If the frame is going to bend again before a couple a arms, I don't want to have to pay to have the frame replaced, forunately I have a second quad to use while it's laid up in the dealership. As far as there being alot of cases, I'm sure the three cases reported at my dealership are the only incidents, they all happened in my neighborhood and nowhere else I'm sure. Believe that and I'll tell you Elvis is living next door!

 

maybe the a arms are just to strong lol
i am going to call can am and ask them about it

 

Believe it or not, that's part of the problem, the guy at my dealership said the same thing. If they were made to give, the a arms would have absorbed the impact instead of transferring that energy to a weaker part of the frame. Now maybe you could answer why there are so many narrow-minded ignorant idiots who just don't want to even try and understand why the problem exist but instead try to discredit the fact that the problem does exist.

 

As one of the "narrow-minded ignorant idiots " I would like to respond. You have taken an issue that concerns a very few CanAm's and have turned what is arguabley your fault into a vendetta against CanAm. There are considerably more CanAm owners that frequent these forums that do not have any issue with there frames than the insignificant few that have. And the ones that have had an issue have all had some kind of an accident. You have not been forthwith in all the aspects of your tale of woe. It is hard to accept anything you post as creditable. I feel badly that you have had this experience, just don't expect anyone else to adopt your ferver in trying to get CanAm to accept responsibility for it. Generally, if you play, you pay. Get over it.