outlander bent frame- ouch! pics
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It looks more like it took a head-on right on the left front tire. I don't want to start anything here, but when one of the the traditional framed quads takes a hit and get bent/broken, it is normal. When an Outlander/Renegade takes a good hit, it is the "weak" frame.
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It looks more like it took a head-on right on the left front tire. I don't want to start anything here, but when one of the the traditional framed quads takes a hit and get bent/broken, it is normal. When an Outlander/Renegade takes a good hit, it is the "weak" frame.
I'm not getting down on can-am, but the chassis has a flaw(s) A $12k atv (vehicle) should be able to hit a tree or a rock without destroying the chassis at a reasonable speed. These are "all terrain vehicles" not uni-terrain-
CaptainQuint I think hit it smack on the money- the spar frame works well for what it was designed to do- but once there's a tweak in that spar frame, it gets a lot weaker (more so then a tube frame).
What other atv has a main stream chassis mod to prevent it from twisting after hitting a rock or bumping a tree...? None I can think of- that says it all.
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I'd have to agree- I ride with a bunch of different atv's- I always compare components between the can-am, polaris and the four large Japanese makers. One thing that is clearly visible is the difference in size between the popo and outty drive shafts, cv's and tube gage compared to the Asian atv's. Both the stock popo & can-am drive shafts & cv's are 35-40% thicker then all of the stock Asian models- I've checked them all.
I think can-am is on the right track with their spar technology but it really needs a little redesigning in some areas- hey, it took many hours of redesigning the airplane before it would fly, can-am will get there. What we need is an atv that combines the sturdy chassis of the polaris and the agility of the can-am's spar engineering.
How long until we start seeing composite frames???
I think can-am is on the right track with their spar technology but it really needs a little redesigning in some areas- hey, it took many hours of redesigning the airplane before it would fly, can-am will get there. What we need is an atv that combines the sturdy chassis of the polaris and the agility of the can-am's spar engineering.
How long until we start seeing composite frames???
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From the pictures, it does not appear to have been rolled. Handlebars, etc. still good. It looks more like it took a head-on right on the left front tire. I don't want to start anything here, but when one of the the traditional framed quads takes a hit and get bent/broken, it is normal. When an Outlander/Renegade takes a good hit, it is the "weak" frame.
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At least this part of your argument is not a good point to bring...
I agree with you that within its tolerances it's a good frame. I live in rocky New England where we deal with dropping off 3 foot high rocks in places or climbing back over them (this is where a 2 up shines). We also have tons of trees that come down. To me a strong frame on a 4wd machine is a no-brainer. Especially one built with a full metal skidplate stock from the factory. My putting the UHMW piece into the frame is to try to make the Renegade as able as the Polaris to take the abuse of riding in our area. If we were in the sand all the time I wouldn't bother with it.
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MH I can appreciate what you are saying. We all have stories. I have an 06 Outlander 800 with Richochet skids. I have put it thru hell. I hit a 2' boulder at about 50 mph. It darn near thru me over the bars. It broke the "lever" on the rear trailing arm but no damage to the frame. A friend rides a King Quad and had his frame completly break apart back by the rear diff about 60 miles into a ride. The only thing holding the quad together was the wiring and brake lines. My Popo never broke the frame, but about everything else. I guess that is why there are different quad designs available. Each has it's strong/weak points. Lets just ride!
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I agree totally. Drive what you got. I'm just recommending something for people with CanAms to stop and think about. I love the Renegade. The combination of speed and 4wd is fantastic. I just wish they put a few more pounds of metal to strengthen the frame a bit. Other than that I think they are one of the top quads in my book.
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ha! not one hour ago today I just broke the aluminum brace under the headlights that comes through the front of the bumper- it clipped a rock and ripped it right off! ![Mad](https://atvconnection.com/forums/images/smilies/mad.gif)
it's very thin aluminum that basically keeps the headlights from shaking around- it's attached only by one clip under the light- it snapped right off damn it! now I have to find a tig welder!
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it's very thin aluminum that basically keeps the headlights from shaking around- it's attached only by one clip under the light- it snapped right off damn it! now I have to find a tig welder!
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