2012 Can-Am Renegade 1000R Review
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Why are 1000 4stroke ATVs only 82hp while there 1000 4 stroke snowmobiles and PWC are 130hp and 170hp with turbo assist?
82HP is the power a 4 stroke 750cc twin Polaris I.Q sled has before the turbo kicks on and makes 145hp.
Why do they de-tune ATV motors so much?
82HP is the power a 4 stroke 750cc twin Polaris I.Q sled has before the turbo kicks on and makes 145hp.
Why do they de-tune ATV motors so much?
#4
My guess is that quads have a higher center of gravity, are used on rough surfaces, and have soft tires. If you lowered a quad, were on smoother surfaces, and had hard tires you could really rip along without too much of a worry. I've gone upper 50s-lower 60s on a regular quad and that was on a smooth iced over pond. It was fast enough for me.
#5
I'm also guessing there's a lot more moving parts on an atv drivetrain wise- from the tranny down to the wheels- if people are twisting axles, popping cv joints and flipping their atv's end over end- they'd have to really redesign the wheel base for better stability, using bigger / stronger drivetrain parts and passing the expense of this new engineering on to the rider- There has to be more friction & grabbing with 4 atv tires (over rocks, roots and what not) than between a sled's track and the snow.
The 800's already wheelie very easily.
keep in mind- I'm not real familiar with sleds so... just saying.
#6
I'm also guessing there's a lot more moving parts on an atv drivetrain wise- from the tranny down to the wheels- if people are twisting axles, popping cv joints and flipping their atv's end over end- they'd have to really redesign the wheel base for better stability, using bigger / stronger drivetrain parts and passing the expense of this new engineering on to the rider- There has to be more friction & grabbing with 4 atv tires (over rocks, roots and what not) than between a sled's track and the snow.
The 800's already wheelie very easily.
keep in mind- I'm not real familiar with sleds so... just saying.
The 800's already wheelie very easily.
keep in mind- I'm not real familiar with sleds so... just saying.

#7
Man that thing is a beast. I've got the 500 and it's perfect for what I do which is trail ride. Got a chance to ride with a guy on an 800 this past weekend and that thing was fast. I can only imagine how quick the 1000 is.
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#9
I actually like the 500 Renegade a lot. It's a lot more controllable. But, still, I wouldn't mind an 800 or 1000.
#10
That 1000cc Can Am motor is detuned a bit, even for ATVs. A Yamaha YFZ 450 makes about 45 hp with its 450cc engine. A Polaris Rzr XP 900 makes 88 hp with its 875cc engine. So there is an example of an ATV and a side by side that both make about 1 hp per cc. But the 1000cc Can Am is about 18 hp short of hitting that same mark. 18 hp is falling short by quite a bit. Can Am could have done MUCH better with this motor.
And not only that, all of the G2 Can Am chassis' are significantly heavier than the prior chassis were.
And not only that, all of the G2 Can Am chassis' are significantly heavier than the prior chassis were.



