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Old Oct 3, 2011 | 05:09 PM
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Is this the fastest stock ATV available?

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Old Oct 4, 2011 | 08:12 AM
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That's got to be one crazy ride. The 800 was a fast package to begin with. But, now a 1000. I'd be a little careful in the corners not to hit that throttle too hard...
 
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Old Oct 4, 2011 | 08:50 AM
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Why are 1000 4stroke ATVs only 82hp while there 1000 4 stroke snowmobiles and PWC are 130hp and 170hp with turbo assist?

82HP is the power a 4 stroke 750cc twin Polaris I.Q sled has before the turbo kicks on and makes 145hp.

Why do they de-tune ATV motors so much?
 
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Old Oct 4, 2011 | 09:33 AM
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My guess is that quads have a higher center of gravity, are used on rough surfaces, and have soft tires. If you lowered a quad, were on smoother surfaces, and had hard tires you could really rip along without too much of a worry. I've gone upper 50s-lower 60s on a regular quad and that was on a smooth iced over pond. It was fast enough for me.
 
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Originally Posted by TLC
Why do they de-tune ATV motors so much?

I'm also guessing there's a lot more moving parts on an atv drivetrain wise- from the tranny down to the wheels- if people are twisting axles, popping cv joints and flipping their atv's end over end- they'd have to really redesign the wheel base for better stability, using bigger / stronger drivetrain parts and passing the expense of this new engineering on to the rider- There has to be more friction & grabbing with 4 atv tires (over rocks, roots and what not) than between a sled's track and the snow.
The 800's already wheelie very easily.

keep in mind- I'm not real familiar with sleds so... just saying.
 
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Old Oct 4, 2011 | 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by beergut
I'm also guessing there's a lot more moving parts on an atv drivetrain wise- from the tranny down to the wheels- if people are twisting axles, popping cv joints and flipping their atv's end over end- they'd have to really redesign the wheel base for better stability, using bigger / stronger drivetrain parts and passing the expense of this new engineering on to the rider- There has to be more friction & grabbing with 4 atv tires (over rocks, roots and what not) than between a sled's track and the snow.
The 800's already wheelie very easily.

keep in mind- I'm not real familiar with sleds so... just saying.
Yes, but you are familiar with flipping ATVs...
 
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Old Oct 4, 2011 | 02:10 PM
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Man that thing is a beast. I've got the 500 and it's perfect for what I do which is trail ride. Got a chance to ride with a guy on an 800 this past weekend and that thing was fast. I can only imagine how quick the 1000 is.
 
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Old Oct 4, 2011 | 02:20 PM
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I NEED ONE right now!!!!! lol
 
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Old Oct 4, 2011 | 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ponyboy96
Man that thing is a beast. I've got the 500 and it's perfect for what I do which is trail ride. Got a chance to ride with a guy on an 800 this past weekend and that thing was fast. I can only imagine how quick the 1000 is.
I actually like the 500 Renegade a lot. It's a lot more controllable. But, still, I wouldn't mind an 800 or 1000.
 
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Old Oct 4, 2011 | 08:27 PM
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That 1000cc Can Am motor is detuned a bit, even for ATVs. A Yamaha YFZ 450 makes about 45 hp with its 450cc engine. A Polaris Rzr XP 900 makes 88 hp with its 875cc engine. So there is an example of an ATV and a side by side that both make about 1 hp per cc. But the 1000cc Can Am is about 18 hp short of hitting that same mark. 18 hp is falling short by quite a bit. Can Am could have done MUCH better with this motor.

And not only that, all of the G2 Can Am chassis' are significantly heavier than the prior chassis were.
 
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