Another thing to note, is that many of the first time new forum users are people who have had a problem. IE: the !5 or 2% that had the problem, are the ones jumping on the internet looking for an answer, and end up here to discuss the problem. There hundreds of thousands of DS owners, who have probably never even heard of ATVing.com, nor have they registered and posted on the web site. I feel very very sorry for all of them, there is so much excellent and generally honest information on these forusm and others like them that this is the single best resource we have, far superior to any dealer.