I have heard of people saying that the Baja DS is faster than the Regular DS in top end and Acceleration.. Now I can understand the Top End being faster on the Baja Because of the 200 more rpm in the rev box. But how would something that weighs 20 pounds more Accelerate faster?

 

The baja only weighs 15 pounds more.The baja accelerates faster becuse when your racing thru the gears your not bumping the rev limiter as early as the regular ds.The other reason is the tires on the baja are 100% better than the kendas that will increase acceleration(less tire spin). I love my baja if the baja would have been around when i bought my ds i would have picked the baja no dought!The baja is so much better atv.

 

Well I didnt mean like where traction was an issue. I meant just flat out acceleration. Like on Asphalt where tires dont make as much difference. And the rev limiter is only 200 rpm higher. Most of the reason people say the Bajas dont hit the limiter as much is because of the tires. This what im saying you guies think that 200 more rpm makes up for a 15-20 pound difference.? On asphalt the rev limiter isint even an issue on a stock DS.

 

The tires on the baja are the same size as the regular ds.So i would think that the rev box is making the diffrence.

 

Maybe it's just me, but the only time I ride my Bomb on asphalt is when I load/unlaod it at my house. If it had the ability to become invisible and fly at the speed of light on asphalt it wouldn't mean a hill of beans, since it's a dirt machine. Am I missing something here?

 

BadBombardier650~
On asphalt, the rev limiter is very much an issue for the stock DS650. I just got in from doing some jetting runs, and I was bumping the limiter in every gear going down the road! Having to shift at 7700 rpm's, I'm not in the meat of the power when I get to the next gear. An extra 200 rpm's would definitely help. An extra 1000 rpm's would be even better!

 

WIscrambler,

You have a modified end cap and jetting mods. Your bike is gonna make its power at a higher rpm.Therefore will hit the limiter even easier.. We are talking about a stock DS.

And The question I was asking is flat out acceleration. WITHOUT a traction issue. And since The Dominators suck and the Ohtsu's are great. That makes Traction the decideing factor. I was trying to elminate that by saying run them on Asphalt. But lets say they both have Ohtsu's. It doesnt matter... I just didnt want traction to be what made the difference In the twos Acceleration. Im talking about bone stock bikes. Will 200 more rpm make up for a 15-20 pound difference In Equal Traction Acceleration.

 

BadBombardier650~
I've had the end cap on for about 2 weeks now. It doesn't just make more power at higher rpm's, but also gives a broader power band. With the stock exhaust, I would still hit the limiter very easily. I believe that Bombardier should have the Baja's CDI box on the regular DS650 and an 8500 rpm CDI box on the Baja. To answer your initial question, regarding traction, I do believe the extra 200 rom's will overcome the extra 15 lbs. With about 41 rwhp, 15 lbs is not going to make that much difference. Having an extra 200 rpm's before shifting and also being 200 rpm's higher when starting the next gear will definitely help performance. If you wanted to see the exact numbers, punch in numbers on MarkyNark's speed calculator and compare them to a Dyno sheet. It would be interesting to see just how much the baja is making at that 200 higher rpm's

 

WIscrambler,

A stock DS 650 motor makes its peak power somewhere in the 6000 rpm range. Its not gonna make more peak power turning 7900 instead of 7700. What the extra rpms do is put the motor higher in its powerband after the shift. So it pulls a little harder after the shift instead of possibly falling out of the powerband. And I think that the Baja and the Regular Ds should both have 8500 rpm rev box's.

 

BadBombardier650~
What you said is exactly what I was thinking.