The only sand tires I ever recommend to anyone are Haulers and Padla Brats. Both are straight blades.

I don't know why people who swear by v- blades say you can't "play" with straight ones. I can power slide my DS with the best of them. I admit it's EASIER with the V's but when I come out of a corner and wack that throttle I want immediate hook up.

And as everyone knows you can't beat the straight ones for hill shooting/drag racing. So if you have the straight ones you can do everything. Put V's on and you suffer on the hill.

 

Of all the threads I've read about Sand Tires, this has got to be the most informative of them all. You Bomb guys are alright. Thanks for the great info.

 

Ok now tell me about air pressure. I have found that running a little more air in my air really help in acceleration once I get started. But I also know that I can acheive faster starts with a lower air pressure. When I see drag bikes their tires are full and round. Any thoughts?

 

<< Ok now tell me about air pressure. I have found that running a little more air in my air really help in acceleration once I get started. But I also know that I can acheive faster starts with a lower air pressure. When I see drag bikes their tires are full and round. Any thoughts? >>



Hurycne
You have a point,before my extended swing arm ,I found that if I added more air I could get off the line with more wheel spin(no chance of flipping over)but alot of spinning
In turn I found I would gain speed in the higher gears.(kind of a trade off)


Also most sand drag tires are rounded by design

just my thoughts
Jeff

 

About the vees - they are more fun to carve with. You cannot spin the straight paddles around like you can a vee. You can still have plenty of fun with straights, you can play, and I do 'cause I run haulers on my DS, but vees offer something different - spins that are not achievable with straights. In places that aren't very big - like Silver Lake, MI - there are no hills to shoot. The tallest dune is around 60 feet. The only place you would suffer is on the drag, and if you didn't come to drag then you'd have more fun with vees.

Hurycne - I run 3-4 pounds for a smooth ride, but dragging generally calls for more pressure so the tire will crown more and dig in deeper for more grab. Some guys even run a narrow rim to really round up the tire and dig in. The flat profile helps the straight paddles slide easier for play riding though, so I stick with the wide rims.

 

I don't know if this works on other tires but I know it works on Haulers &amp; Extreme Haulers.

I run 5 psi in my Extremes for more bite. The tire has a crown &amp; is of course stiffer. This lets the whole paddle bite. I get exelent launches &amp; great traction in the dunes.
When you run lower air pressure (2 1/2~3 1/2 psi) the tire can deform in the center under power that means only the out side of the paddles are biting.

With Haulers &amp; Extremes you definatly get more bite with more air pressure.

Just dont get carried away, too much air pressure will strech the tires. Vulcanized paddle carcases are weakened by buffing off the tread of the tire. If you use too much air pressure &amp; it sets in the sun the tires will grow &amp; stay that way!!

If you don't want to believe a Raptor guy go to My Web Site I've got 5 pages of pics of drag quads many costing over $30,000. Look at the tires on them. Every thing on those quads are set up to go fast period. look at the crown in their tires. I mean to tell you these things get bite &amp; haul A$$!! they run in the 3.50's @ over 90 MPH.

 

I have always run 20&quot; 10 paddle haulers until this last trip to Sand Mtn. I bought a set of 22&quot; edges and was excitied to try them out. I found them awesome for trail riding but when it came to climb the tall mountain I couldn't achieve enough power to get up the hill to the ridge. I lent my haulers to my friend that knocked his bead off of his 20&quot; edge and afterwards he was begging me to sell them to him. I think I will keep the haulers and use them for climbing. BTW those frigging ridge rides were giving me the *******!

Jon

 

Over memorial day weekend at LS,ok., I tried out my new front and rear 20&quot; maxxis roosters. The fronts turn and float very good and the rear V Pro Wedge's slide/dune very well when aired up to 4 or 5 psi and hook up after you get them spinning. Biggerisbetter, being the experienced duner(da man!), let some air out to about 2psi or so, and they really hooked up , even on the straights! I had trouble keeping my front end down with 2nd gear launches when drag racing. I also didn't have any trouble climbing any hills at LS running the lower pressures. The sand wasn't very dry, which probably had something to do with it. They are a pretty good all around sand tire and seem very well constructed. I did get to try out Clif's ds with and I liked how the haulers hooked up on the hills and straights. Thanks to all you guys, I'm hooked on riding on the sand and can't seem to concentrate on anything else but that!(lol)....

 

BigJon,

Yah I hear ya on the ridge riding. I wonder if there is a name for a phobia of riding the ridges of steep sand hills. I have never really wrecked a quad bad so I don't know why I get a little freaked when it comes to hills. I just alweays see my Bomb rolling down the hill and seeing that 8K or so going by-bye. After riding at the Mtn. I am alot more comfortable with it and it was actually good to see others ride there DS's for learning riding skill. I really didn't get to ride much last year do to work but I plan on doing alot more riding this yearto work on my rider skills. The one thing I think I can do pretty well is run whoops and rough road, desert racing type terain. Jeff is a dang good rider and I liked riding with him to push my skills. Too bad yours overheated that day, the ride only got better after that.

Demon

 

Ridges are awesome!!
Straight paddles do a lot better than vees riding the side slopes - your rear doesn't get away as easy...