After looking at lots of these I am leaning toward this model. The FK "Front Kitchen" layout gives a lot of room for the quads. I've only seen a 19 FK, and it was 15' from the back door to the cabinets at the stove, not quite enough. I am assuming the FK 21 will give me 17', which would work. The Super Lite is not as wide as the 102" "widebodies", but a 21 FK is 1,400 lbs lighter than a 22' tip-out. I have a Ford F-250 with a V-10 and I want a real easy tow package. I also want to look at the Xtreme by Kit. And I have not yet seen the Rage'n. But they are both heavy.
...The Weekend Warrior Superlites (FK) seem to be the only lightweights in the toybox game....The 19FK, uladen vehicle weight is only 3,800 lbs. 4100 lbs for the 21 FK. That is including hitch weight, not just axle weight. Gotta be careful about that one. Sometimes you think you are getting vehicle weight when you are only looking at axle weight.
My quads are big, DS and Raptor with Durablue axle, a Sportsman and the maxi mini Raptorette. And I can throw a fifth quad in the back of the truck. I had 5 quads out last weekend. I had to make two trips each way.
....I think these lites are the way to go hauling quads, quads don't weigh as much as dune buggies and such and can handle the payload just fine. 3TV's 26ft front sleeper weighs 11,000 lbs loaded, that is just too much for me or my truck. I would love to have a front sleeper or tip-out but that is not available in a Superlite and adds nearly a ton, or more. I think the 26' sleeper weighs 5800 lbs empty.
Which means 3TV is carrying 5,000 lbs of stuff...
.....Any thoughts?

 

HMMM, you have a v10, you can tow 10klbs easily. "DSaholic" has a v10 f250 he tow his toy hauler with. Remember 4100lbs dry, add the 100 gallons of water-700lbs, 800-1000lbs of miscellanious gear(clothes, food, kitchen stuff, bathroom stuff, tv, etc, etc). Then 2000-2500 for your 4 quads. You are at about 8000lbs. Does the 21fk even have a bathroom? I would just look at the WW 2200 front tent. Talk to "duneme" he has one. Also 4 quads in that "ultra lite" will be pushing the limits of that trailer, if i remember right it has the light duty axles. We have the heavy duty axles on our dunes toy hauler and use every bit of them, lol. I would say go with as big of a trailer as you can, we thought our 23' dunes would be plenty for us, well now we are looking at either the fb3000 WW or the extreme 30txu. lol. Also i dont think u can have a built in genny on the ultra lites, its SOOOO nice to have a built in. I hate our portable genny, its loud, heavy, and a pain to drag around in the sand. Our new trailer will have the 5.5onan marquis built in. Hope i helped you out, any other questions u got, just ask. Sean

 

I see what you mean about payload capacity. The Super Lite 21 has a 3500 lb payload capacity, where the 22 tip-out has a 6,000 lb payload capacity.
The 22FT has a gross vehicle weight of 11,000 lb, which is the F-250's towing limit as well. GVW of the Superlites is 7,500 lbs.
....There is a generator compartment on the FK Superlite, I think a gen set is a must, even though it is big bucks. This is the southwest, and AC is awesome. Almost no where has hook ups.

 

4 quads and gear, plus a genny in the ultra lite would be over its limit. I have a 01f250 PSD. I dont remember what the gvw is but with 2 of us in it, i was at 8200lbs empty, i have a camper shell and stuff on too. Now on our way back from sand mtn. labor day weekend i stopped at a truck scale to see how much the truck and trailer weighed. It was 18,500lbs. Thats a trailer weight of approx 10,300lbs, and i had drained what water was left in the tank that we hadnt used so i would say the trailer weight fully loaded with water is 10,600 or so. This was with 2 DS's, our golf cart, and a raptor in our 23' dunes trailer. Now the dry weight of our trailer is 5300lbs so we had 5000lbs worth of stuff in it. I would really not recommend those ultra lites since u have a rig that can tow the weight just fine. Sean

 

Hey Forlix, in 96 I bought a WW 2000 (24'total legnth). At the time I hauled a 94 400L, 95 Scrambler, 250 TBoss, TRX 90 and a CR 80. All with no problem I would park the Scrambler all the way up front and turn everything else side to side. Then in 98 I sold the WW and bought a Terry with the front bedroom about 28" long. I now had two scramblers a TBlazer, TRX 90 and LT 80. By the third outing the Terry had all kinds of problems and on the way home after a trip the hangers on the rear axle broke causing the frame to bend on the trailer. After much debate with the dealer and company I had to buy back my old WW. The quality of the WW is one of the best around I think. I haul my trailer with a GMC 2500, 454 w/410 and never have a problem. It may not have the tourqe of the V10 or Deisel but has plenty of power to pull a full load. Hope this helps out.

 

I have the 22FT (Front Tilt-out) and I have fit two DS 650's + one Yamaha Warrior + one LT80 in at the same time.

This is a tight fit and the LT-80 ends up on the leno but, tows fine.

I understand the weight issue as I went through this too. I now tow with an Excursion with the PS Diesel and it is a very comfortable tow.

I don't expect to use the Front Tilt-out sleeper very often but, it is there should I need it. It is just my wife and I + our 5 year old Daughter. We sleep in the bunk and put her on the couch.

Water is 8.33 lbs/gallon so, 120X8.33 = 1000 lbs. + 500 lbs/quadX4 quads (includes accessories) + 200 lbs. (beer approx 8 lbs/gallon) + Food + Fuel (36 gallon tank X 7.5 lbs/gallon???) = 3500-4000 lbs.

How many people are you going to sleep in the trailer?

If you are going to sleep 5 people (one/quad) you need the front sleeper model 2600. The 2200 FT is good for 3 people but, 5 is too much.

I thought I wouldn't use the front tilt-out because of cold but so far it has been due to noise (night riders).

 

I would still like to travel "light". Let me just go over this, sort of think it through out loud. Payload for the FK-2100 is 3550 lbs. 4 quads weighs 2,000 lbs. 60 gallons of water @ 9 lbs/gallon is 540 lbs. genset and 18 gallons of gas, say 250 lbs. That leaves only about 750 lbs for gear and groceries. I will be using a shell camper on the back of the truck, unless I need to haul a 5th quad, so I expect a lot of gear to go in there. There isn't that much storage in the FK, and loaded with quads, there isn't much room for anything else.
....SO it looks like I would pretty much max out the FK-21, right at 7500 lbs. Maxing out anything is usually not a good thing.
....A 22 FT, with the tip-out,would have payload to spare, but weigh an additional ton with the same load.
....I noticed that Carson Trailers have a light version that you can get the heavier axles on.
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I would always be wary about how much weight I'm putting on my axles. Nothing worse that burning up an axle bearing 350 miles from home on a Sunday! Always account at least 1500-2000 pounds more that you think you need.

 

Yes, we almost bought a dunes with the lighter axles because back when we bought it we only had a dodge 1/2 ton 360. Well after about a year towing with that rig, we got the PSD, night and day difference. Also the gen set weighs 200 just by itself, then add the gas and u r at over 400lbs. Just letting u know [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img] Sean

 

Fourlix, that v10 will tow just about anything just fine. That is what I have and it will pull my 28' desert fox really well. We have some pretty long steep hills around and that is the worst part. I should have opted for the 4.30 gears. But I usually dont have any trouble. The worst is getting behind someone and then only being able to do 40 up a steep grade, but that does not happen too often.

If you want something shorter like that, I would do the 22' tip out or something along those lines. My buddy bought a 25', cant remember which brand with the front bathroom and it is quite a bit lighter then mine. I towed it a couple weekends ago with my truck and it felt much lighter than my camper. I really wanted the front bedroom, but if that is not important to you then get the tip out.

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