Calling all you math heads, answer me this!
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#82
Calling all you math heads, answer me this!
The top speed of the dragster is not important. At 4.437 seconds the stock car is at 1301.5'.The drag car has crossed the finish line at 1320'.
Now 3 men went to a hotel and asked for 3 seperate rooms, The hotel manager said I am sorry there is only 1 room left and it is $30 for the night, so each man paid $10 (3*10=30) and went to the room. The manager thought that he should give the men a discount so he gave the Bell boy $5 and told him to take it to the men. The Bell boy did not know how to divide $5 3 ways so he put $2 in his pocket, and gave each man back $1, Therefore each man paid $9. 3*$9=$27+$2 in bellboys pocket= $29 WHERE IS THE OTHER DOLLAR?
Now 3 men went to a hotel and asked for 3 seperate rooms, The hotel manager said I am sorry there is only 1 room left and it is $30 for the night, so each man paid $10 (3*10=30) and went to the room. The manager thought that he should give the men a discount so he gave the Bell boy $5 and told him to take it to the men. The Bell boy did not know how to divide $5 3 ways so he put $2 in his pocket, and gave each man back $1, Therefore each man paid $9. 3*$9=$27+$2 in bellboys pocket= $29 WHERE IS THE OTHER DOLLAR?
#83
Calling all you math heads, answer me this!
Originally posted by: toomanyquads
The top speed of the dragster is not important. At 4.437 seconds the stock car is at 1301.5'.The drag car has crossed the finish line at 1320'.
Now 3 men went to a hotel and asked for 3 seperate rooms, The hotel manager said I am sorry there is only 1 room left and it is $30 for the night, so each man paid $10 (3*10=30) and went to the room. The manager thought that he should give the men a discount so he gave the Bell boy $5 and told him to take it to the men. The Bell boy did not know how to divide $5 3 ways so he put $2 in his pocket, and gave each man back $1, Therefore each man paid $9. 3*$9=$27+$2 in bellboys pocket= $29 WHERE IS THE OTHER DOLLAR?
The top speed of the dragster is not important. At 4.437 seconds the stock car is at 1301.5'.The drag car has crossed the finish line at 1320'.
Now 3 men went to a hotel and asked for 3 seperate rooms, The hotel manager said I am sorry there is only 1 room left and it is $30 for the night, so each man paid $10 (3*10=30) and went to the room. The manager thought that he should give the men a discount so he gave the Bell boy $5 and told him to take it to the men. The Bell boy did not know how to divide $5 3 ways so he put $2 in his pocket, and gave each man back $1, Therefore each man paid $9. 3*$9=$27+$2 in bellboys pocket= $29 WHERE IS THE OTHER DOLLAR?
The way you tell the story does make you stop and think, maybe 1+1 really does equal 3.lol[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
Some people make a good living doing math the way you just did[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img] Thanks for the entertainment
#84
Calling all you math heads, answer me this!
Originally posted by: toomanyquadsWHERE IS THE OTHER DOLLAR?
#85
Calling all you math heads, answer me this!
Giving back 5 dollars makes the room 25 bucks. Therefore, each man pays 8.333333333. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img] Unless, one of the men just throws in an extra buck so they dont have to find change. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
#86
Calling all you math heads, answer me this!
Originally posted by: Knutz
OK Bryce, so we narrowed down the age of the information to some time between the 300MPH barrier being broken and the implementation of the 90% rule.
How you assume that more power is going to cause the the clutch to lock up sooner is a mystery to me. The reason for the clutch slippage is to prevent the HP from exceeding the traction. The more HP there is, the more the clutch must slip to maintain traction.
I didn't say that a dyno could not be made to handle the power, but currently there isn't one that can be used for these engines and/or chassis.
You have a solid grasp on the math, I'm not denying that. Your understanding of the operation of a top fuel car is the weak link. Just because a word problem is presented, does not mean that suffient information has been included to formulate an accurate math problem that can be solved. My point is simply that it can't be solved accuratly.
OK Bryce, so we narrowed down the age of the information to some time between the 300MPH barrier being broken and the implementation of the 90% rule.
How you assume that more power is going to cause the the clutch to lock up sooner is a mystery to me. The reason for the clutch slippage is to prevent the HP from exceeding the traction. The more HP there is, the more the clutch must slip to maintain traction.
I didn't say that a dyno could not be made to handle the power, but currently there isn't one that can be used for these engines and/or chassis.
You have a solid grasp on the math, I'm not denying that. Your understanding of the operation of a top fuel car is the weak link. Just because a word problem is presented, does not mean that suffient information has been included to formulate an accurate math problem that can be solved. My point is simply that it can't be solved accuratly.
The Schenck W6300 water brake will easily handle these engines. That is a standard dyno by Schenck (Horiba now). Put one of these on each wheel as a power train dyno, and you can easily hold back the fueler.
Now the reason I say that the acceleration is probably linear in the second half is that there are two major sources of non-linearity related to the acceleration. The first term is the force due to air drag on the frontal area of the fueler. The second force is the downward force generated by the wing on the rear tires. Both forces are proportional to the velocity squared. The air drag creates a force that attempts to slow the fueler. The wing provides downward force that allows the engine to put more force through the tire patch. Given that the engine has the power to spin the tires at will, the frontal drag works against the engine; however, the downward force of the wing works for the engine.
Bryce
#87
Calling all you math heads, answer me this!
Originally posted by: toomanyquads
Now 3 men went to a hotel and asked for 3 seperate rooms, The hotel manager said I am sorry there is only 1 room left and it is $30 for the night, so each man paid $10 (3*10=30) and went to the room. The manager thought that he should give the men a discount so he gave the Bell boy $5 and told him to take it to the men. The Bell boy did not know how to divide $5 3 ways so he put $2 in his pocket, and gave each man back $1, Therefore each man paid $9. 3*$9=$27+$2 in bellboys pocket= $29 WHERE IS THE OTHER DOLLAR?
Now 3 men went to a hotel and asked for 3 seperate rooms, The hotel manager said I am sorry there is only 1 room left and it is $30 for the night, so each man paid $10 (3*10=30) and went to the room. The manager thought that he should give the men a discount so he gave the Bell boy $5 and told him to take it to the men. The Bell boy did not know how to divide $5 3 ways so he put $2 in his pocket, and gave each man back $1, Therefore each man paid $9. 3*$9=$27+$2 in bellboys pocket= $29 WHERE IS THE OTHER DOLLAR?
#88
Calling all you math heads, answer me this!
Yep!
The guys paid $30. The manager gave back $5 for a discount. $3 to the guys, $2 to the bell boy it all adds up[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
The guys didn't pay $27 for the room, they ended up paying $25 for the room and giving the Bell boy a $2 tip.........only they didn't know it[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
As a builder, I do math like this all the time[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img] I make a living by keeping the missing dollar[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img] j/k
The guys paid $30. The manager gave back $5 for a discount. $3 to the guys, $2 to the bell boy it all adds up[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
The guys didn't pay $27 for the room, they ended up paying $25 for the room and giving the Bell boy a $2 tip.........only they didn't know it[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
As a builder, I do math like this all the time[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img] I make a living by keeping the missing dollar[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img] j/k
#89
Calling all you math heads, answer me this!
OK Bryce,
This third party on some other forum must be the expert. There is no way I could possibly have a bit more experience or knowledge on the subject. Heck, by that matter, your knowledge about the subject must be far superior to mine.
It's not worth the pissing match. If you were as intelligent as I thought you were, you would know that the closest your comeing with your math is an approximation. Instead, you want to insist that your exact and correct, seamingly out of silly spite. Whatever.
I guess that assumptions must make for exact answers, till now, I never realized that. Thanks for the education.
Could you please explain one last thing though, if the top speed is measured by calculating the time to cover the last 66' of the track, how are you calculating exact possition down to the foot? Please continue to teach me.
This third party on some other forum must be the expert. There is no way I could possibly have a bit more experience or knowledge on the subject. Heck, by that matter, your knowledge about the subject must be far superior to mine.
It's not worth the pissing match. If you were as intelligent as I thought you were, you would know that the closest your comeing with your math is an approximation. Instead, you want to insist that your exact and correct, seamingly out of silly spite. Whatever.
I guess that assumptions must make for exact answers, till now, I never realized that. Thanks for the education.
Could you please explain one last thing though, if the top speed is measured by calculating the time to cover the last 66' of the track, how are you calculating exact possition down to the foot? Please continue to teach me.
#90
Calling all you math heads, answer me this!
Originally posted by: Knutz
OK Bryce,
This third party on some other forum must be the expert. There is no way I could possibly have a bit more experience or knowledge on the subject. Heck, by that matter, your knowledge about the subject must be far superior to mine.
It's not worth the pissing match. If you were as intelligent as I thought you were, you would know that the closest your comeing with your math is an approximation. Instead, you want to insist that your exact and correct, seamingly out of silly spite. Whatever.
I guess that assumptions must make for exact answers, till now, I never realized that. Thanks for the education.
Could you please explain one last thing though, if the top speed is measured by calculating the time to cover the last 66' of the track, how are you calculating exact possition down to the foot? Please continue to teach me.
OK Bryce,
This third party on some other forum must be the expert. There is no way I could possibly have a bit more experience or knowledge on the subject. Heck, by that matter, your knowledge about the subject must be far superior to mine.
It's not worth the pissing match. If you were as intelligent as I thought you were, you would know that the closest your comeing with your math is an approximation. Instead, you want to insist that your exact and correct, seamingly out of silly spite. Whatever.
I guess that assumptions must make for exact answers, till now, I never realized that. Thanks for the education.
Could you please explain one last thing though, if the top speed is measured by calculating the time to cover the last 66' of the track, how are you calculating exact possition down to the foot? Please continue to teach me.
Bryce has intelligence and good math skills.
Knuts has intelligence, good math skills and years of racing and performance experience............first hand.
One to Nothing, Knuts[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]