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Title Question - Sold Quad

Old May 29, 2012 | 01:59 PM
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I sold my quad recently but never got a title for it in the first place, I figured like any of vehicle I would get it after I paid it off. Well I paid it off shortly after I sold it and never got a title.

The guy I sold it to is demanding a title because he said they are required in Illinois (I am in Indiana). I was under the impression that they do not need to be titled and the only reason to title them is to prove you own it. I was also under the impression that when you went to get it titled you had to pay sales tax which would be quite a lot. I have called the bank and they do not have one and I have talked to the store I purchased it from and they said the bank has to have it because the bank will not finance without a title.

The bank said either they lost it or never got it in the first place, so they do not have it, the store I got it from does not have it so I am just at a loss and I do not know what to do right now. They also checked with the DMV and the DMV said they have no record of it so it was never registered.

I have a bill of sale that we did (one of those I sold it to you with both our names signed it deals), and a paper from the bank saying that I do not owe anything on it. I offered to send that to him and he agreed them came back saying he had to have the title.

Anyone have any idea's or thoughts?
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Old May 29, 2012 | 03:04 PM
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I have heard of some states actually needing the title for them so they can register it to ride on the state owned trails.

Not a necessity here, yet. But I do know you can apply for a bonded title here. Cost more, and more hassle, but it can be done. Might have him check and see if his state issues bonded titles.
 
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Old Jun 4, 2012 | 06:46 AM
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many states are "non-titling" states.
for example- like here in New Hampshire- if you buy a new atv from the dealer, you will not be issued a title.

States that require a title will understand this and usually allow a previous / current reg, Bill of Sale or the origonal dealer paperwork in place of a title.

also- dealers selling in non-titled states usually offer a slip or form at the time of purchase, stating that "this atv has been purchased from a non-titling state" and the dealer usually has a watercrest seal they stamp on the slip.

regardless if you buy a new atv from a titling state or a non-titling state, it's standard for most atv manufacturers to include a "certificate of origin" that follows the atv and the new owners. You can usually obtain a copy of this certificate by calling the manufacturer and giving them your vin# - there may be a small fee for the copy.

in either case- you AND the buyer should be doing some research and making phone calls to the local dealers and RMV to get some answers.

I have a bill of sale that we did (one of those I sold it to you with both our names signed it deals), and a paper from the bank saying that I do not owe anything on it. I offered to send that to him and he agreed them came back saying he had to have the title.
the lien release is an important paper- he should be fine with a bank lien release and bill of sale.
if not, then he'll have to figure it out on his end- because it's all you have, plain & simple.

There has to be exceptions in every state that require titles- because titles were never handed with atv's many years ago.
 
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Old Jun 4, 2012 | 02:20 PM
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I live in Massachusetts and we are not required to have Titles for atvs, dirt bikes and snowmobiles. However, if you purchase it new, you must have a Certificate of Origin and the Registry will require to see it. We only need a Bill of Sale for used ones.

With that said, I just had a similar problem with mine. I just purchased 2009 leftover that although it's 3 years old, it's new and I was required to have the Certificate of Origin. The Dealer lost or misplaced it and had to contact the Manufacturer to get a duplicate. It took about a week and in my case, there was no charge, there might be a fee in your case.

Good luck, Mike.
 
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