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Old Jan 25, 2017 | 10:14 PM
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Is a honda 400ex faster than a raptor 660, stock of course? My guess would be the raptor.
 
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Old Jan 26, 2017 | 02:16 PM
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Not sure. Raptor is heavier. Honda is very light. Could be close but I'm not sure. If it was a 450 I'm sure it would be faster than the Raptor 660 if both are unmodified.
 
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Old Jan 26, 2017 | 02:22 PM
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Stock vs. Stock in a straight drag race, the raptor would eat the 400ex for breakfast.

On a tight trail or track, could be a different story.
 
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Old Jan 26, 2017 | 03:23 PM
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The raptor is much faster...
 
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Old Jan 27, 2017 | 05:05 AM
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The Raptor does weigh slightly more but it does have a lot more power. The air cooled engine in the 400ex is very reliable but you have almost 200cc more displacement and liquid cooling in the raptor 660 engine. I remember years ago some people were using raptor 660 engine parts on grizzly 660 engines because you got a noticeable gain in power. I think they did it on rhinos as well. On the used market, the raptor 660 doesn't cost much more than a 400ex, at least around here. Raptor also had reverse standard on all years, the 400ex didn't get it until later on and think it was still optional. Might not sound like a big deal there but I've seen some 400ex riders wish they had reverse when they had to put it in neutral and push it to turn around in a tight spot.
 
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Old Jan 27, 2017 | 09:25 AM
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Straight line it isn't even close really, raptor all the way. Throw in some corners and tight trails and it gets closer, can even swing towards the Honda. I like corners.
 
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Old Jan 28, 2017 | 06:53 PM
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Hi yamadog, I have to ask. Are you an ATV racer, or want to be an ATV racer? From what I've seen on video, it is a tough sport for sure. I might add that more manufacturers are not continuing their sport quad lines. I don't think they are selling well.

David
 
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Old Jan 29, 2017 | 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by dbj216
Hi yamadog, I have to ask. Are you an ATV racer, or want to be an ATV racer? From what I've seen on video, it is a tough sport for sure. I might add that more manufacturers are not continuing their sport quad lines. I don't think they are selling well.

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Im not really looking to get into racing just looking for a fast quad to Bomb around on during the summer. The only racing I'll be doing is probly against friends on a back road.
 
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Old Jan 29, 2017 | 06:42 PM
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Quads driven too fact are indeed a bomb waiting to happen. Quads are inherently unstable designs for speed with their high center of gravity, boxy wheel stance, and mushy tires. A go kart they ain't. They're designed for plodding along a "rough plowed field" or other off road situations. They are fun in that regard, but not well suited for miles per hour.

Power sells. I've read in these Forums that about 45 horse around a 600 cc in utility quad is plenty for trail riding, snow plowing, and getting through wet spots. Some quads come with 90 horse engines. The only thing gained in my view is more fuel used, more heat generated and more acceleration.

So learn to respect the machine you select for what it was designed for. Otherwise it could come back and bite you hard.

Do I sound like an old safety nag?

David
 
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Old Jan 29, 2017 | 08:30 PM
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Yes, yes you kind of do sound like a safety nag since the difference between a modern 50" 450 class and your average utility is similar to comparing a 4x4 truck to a corvette.
 
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