twister hammerhead 150cc go off road go kart
#151
Originally posted by: hopsterguy
Wow.. okay, good to know. And he is in the double seat Dazon, too?? If that's the case... imagine how much faster off the line the single would be.
Now... is the price worth it? Big price difference there.
Have any experience with the Carter Brothers Talon line??? Wondering how they top out... all three of these are apparantly built by the same factory.
Some sites seem to claim 13 hp on the carters... but I see 11hp claims as well. Get's confusing here.
-Steve
Originally posted by: RAPTORAZ
The engine's in these karts are all VERY similar but they are not exactly the same. They use different CVT/gearcase ratio's and piston/head combinations. The Dazon appears to have the best of all those parts. Lower CVT ratio for better off the line sprints, and bigger valves for better top end breathing. So they are faster from the factory. Even my ported and polished big-valved KPX is unable to beat my buddie's piped-only Dazon. He'll get the holeshot, and then we stay even(me about 2 karts back) until they both top out.
Originally posted by: hopsterguy
How does he like that Dazon? I keep hearing that they are faster, but I don't see how that is, since it's the same engine and all... right?
-Steve
Originally posted by: RAPTORAZ
Just some FYI. You all should go check the planetary drive(the reverse mechanism) on your karts. Both of mine and my buddie's Dazon's were bent and on the verge of failure. It's an easy thing to overlook until it breaks. I built some custom brackets last night for both of mine. We'll see how they hold up with paddle tires at Glamis this weekend.
Just some FYI. You all should go check the planetary drive(the reverse mechanism) on your karts. Both of mine and my buddie's Dazon's were bent and on the verge of failure. It's an easy thing to overlook until it breaks. I built some custom brackets last night for both of mine. We'll see how they hold up with paddle tires at Glamis this weekend.
-Steve
Wow.. okay, good to know. And he is in the double seat Dazon, too?? If that's the case... imagine how much faster off the line the single would be.
Now... is the price worth it? Big price difference there.
Have any experience with the Carter Brothers Talon line??? Wondering how they top out... all three of these are apparantly built by the same factory.
Some sites seem to claim 13 hp on the carters... but I see 11hp claims as well. Get's confusing here.
-Steve
#152
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Originally posted by: bickel76
Wow... that sucks. Can't believe that. You would think Carter would be more responsive to customer services... I guess they just want to feed more sales to a dealer. Well,
I guess it's not that bad since there are a good number of on-line dealers for them. But still.
So what kind of mods did you do to the 125??
-Steve
Originally posted by: bickel76
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i have some experience with the carter brothers talon. i'm thinking that the talon is along the lines of the hammerheads and kpx type carts. i have the 2 seater 125 and it tops out right at 36 with the cheap mods that i've made. the worst part about the talons is that if you call the company, they will not send you any parts whatsoever. you have to go to either the place you bought it or a talon dealer. the only problems that we've had so far is everything was loose and everything, even electrical, needed to be gone over. my trans/reverse assembly wobbles also. sounds like that is something that all these similar carts are having problems with.
i have some experience with the carter brothers talon. i'm thinking that the talon is along the lines of the hammerheads and kpx type carts. i have the 2 seater 125 and it tops out right at 36 with the cheap mods that i've made. the worst part about the talons is that if you call the company, they will not send you any parts whatsoever. you have to go to either the place you bought it or a talon dealer. the only problems that we've had so far is everything was loose and everything, even electrical, needed to be gone over. my trans/reverse assembly wobbles also. sounds like that is something that all these similar carts are having problems with.
Wow... that sucks. Can't believe that. You would think Carter would be more responsive to customer services... I guess they just want to feed more sales to a dealer. Well,
I guess it's not that bad since there are a good number of on-line dealers for them. But still.
So what kind of mods did you do to the 125??
-Steve
#153
Originally posted by: hopsterguy
Wow.. okay, good to know. And he is in the double seat Dazon, too?? If that's the case... imagine how much faster off the line the single would be.
Now... is the price worth it? Big price difference there.
Have any experience with the Carter Brothers Talon line??? Wondering how they top out... all three of these are apparantly built by the same factory.
Some sites seem to claim 13 hp on the carters... but I see 11hp claims as well. Get's confusing here.
-Steve
Originally posted by: RAPTORAZ
The engine's in these karts are all VERY similar but they are not exactly the same. They use different CVT/gearcase ratio's and piston/head combinations. The Dazon appears to have the best of all those parts. Lower CVT ratio for better off the line sprints, and bigger valves for better top end breathing. So they are faster from the factory. Even my ported and polished big-valved KPX is unable to beat my buddie's piped-only Dazon. He'll get the holeshot, and then we stay even(me about 2 karts back) until they both top out.
Originally posted by: hopsterguy
How does he like that Dazon? I keep hearing that they are faster, but I don't see how that is, since it's the same engine and all... right?
-Steve
Originally posted by: RAPTORAZ
Just some FYI. You all should go check the planetary drive(the reverse mechanism) on your karts. Both of mine and my buddie's Dazon's were bent and on the verge of failure. It's an easy thing to overlook until it breaks. I built some custom brackets last night for both of mine. We'll see how they hold up with paddle tires at Glamis this weekend.
Just some FYI. You all should go check the planetary drive(the reverse mechanism) on your karts. Both of mine and my buddie's Dazon's were bent and on the verge of failure. It's an easy thing to overlook until it breaks. I built some custom brackets last night for both of mine. We'll see how they hold up with paddle tires at Glamis this weekend.
-Steve
Wow.. okay, good to know. And he is in the double seat Dazon, too?? If that's the case... imagine how much faster off the line the single would be.
Now... is the price worth it? Big price difference there.
Have any experience with the Carter Brothers Talon line??? Wondering how they top out... all three of these are apparantly built by the same factory.
Some sites seem to claim 13 hp on the carters... but I see 11hp claims as well. Get's confusing here.
-Steve
If the price difference between the Dazon and whatever other kart(KPX, Twister, Carter) your looking at is only a couple of hundred bucks, then I'd pony out the extra cash for the Dazon. It appears Dazon goes the extra effort to build the better kart. In my case, the KPX's I bought were $700 a piece cheaper. So I can do the motor/gearing upgrades cheaper than it would've cost me to go with the Dazon's.
Plus the Dazon's have a bench seat, and I liked the KPX's buckets better.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
#154
hopsterguy-
here are the things that we've done to my kart. not all of them are actually mods.............
speedometer, rearview mirror, larger tires, larger axle sprocket, aluminum skidplate to cover the stock plastic one, and partially drilled out the center diverter inside the muffler. i think that is all we've done so far.
here are the things that we've done to my kart. not all of them are actually mods.............
speedometer, rearview mirror, larger tires, larger axle sprocket, aluminum skidplate to cover the stock plastic one, and partially drilled out the center diverter inside the muffler. i think that is all we've done so far.
#155
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Originally posted by: RAPTORAZ
Yeah, now that you bring it up, the seat is the one real thing that holds me back a little more on the Dazon.
I really don't want to go the $3500 option (raidermax) on dazon to get the buckets. Man, decisions.
Originally posted by: RAPTORAZ
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Plus the Dazon's have a bench seat, and I liked the KPX's buckets better.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
Plus the Dazon's have a bench seat, and I liked the KPX's buckets better.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
Yeah, now that you bring it up, the seat is the one real thing that holds me back a little more on the Dazon.
I really don't want to go the $3500 option (raidermax) on dazon to get the buckets. Man, decisions.
#156
I am not sure, but the single seat looks more than 75lbs lighter to me. when you factor in no extra seat, way less floor pan, no steel protective skirts for the sides of the rollbar, no fenders, smaller rack, less rollbar etc. At least that is what I was hoping. Put some alloy wheels on their and I bet it would be a lot quicker than my 2 seater. I still like taking my oldest along though.
Have you seen the sandhighway forum?
that cracks me up!
lots of anonymous posts there.
Have you seen the sandhighway forum?
that cracks me up!
lots of anonymous posts there.
#157
Originally posted by: Kell
I am not sure, but the single seat looks more than 75lbs lighter to me. when you factor in no extra seat, way less floor pan, no steel protective skirts for the sides of the rollbar, no fenders, smaller rack, less rollbar etc. At least that is what I was hoping. Put some alloy wheels on their and I bet it would be a lot quicker than my 2 seater. I still like taking my oldest along though.
Have you seen the sandhighway forum?
that cracks me up!
lots of anonymous posts there.
I am not sure, but the single seat looks more than 75lbs lighter to me. when you factor in no extra seat, way less floor pan, no steel protective skirts for the sides of the rollbar, no fenders, smaller rack, less rollbar etc. At least that is what I was hoping. Put some alloy wheels on their and I bet it would be a lot quicker than my 2 seater. I still like taking my oldest along though.
Have you seen the sandhighway forum?
that cracks me up!
lots of anonymous posts there.
Yeah, that's true about weight... but if the heads/valves are actually different for better breathing, that explains a lot. Why have two different heads out there on the same engine if one is a better performer? Seems counter-productive.
I agree.. the sand highway forums are definately biased. That's why I was looking for opinions here. On the other hand, I found some review forums that were complaining about all the same stuff on the Dazons... poor quality bolts, loose bolts, etc.
But, if the dazons truely are faster, and more powerful out of the box, that can't be ignored I guess.
It does bug me also that the dazons don't come with fenders of some sort.
So, they are missing a lot, yet have an apparantly better breathing engine.
-Steve
#158
I don't know, we are talking about 150cc here. It's not like any of them are fast. But it is fun! It's my adult sized power wheels. My wife and I call it the super happy family fun machine. She doesn't know as I was tearing up the backyard last night (by myself, no kids) I got that puppy on 2 wheels and about flipped it. It was pretty easy to control, just like a four wheeler. Felt like it was about 45 degrees, I am sure it just felt like it though.
When I go to buy something, I think it do death and then don't even enjoy it when I get it. Fortunately my wife doesn't suffer from the same problem. I do like shopping for bargains, but when we saw this buggy at Gander mt. (we actually had a date night without the kids) we bought it on the spot, paid too much but who cares, life is short.
When I took it riding by myself, I thought, what a dog. But after I got used to it (being slow) and put the pipe on it, I LOVE driving it, much better than my brothers Rhino. That thing feels like you are sitting in a skyscraper ready to tip over at any moment. It does have LOTS of power though.
When I go to buy something, I think it do death and then don't even enjoy it when I get it. Fortunately my wife doesn't suffer from the same problem. I do like shopping for bargains, but when we saw this buggy at Gander mt. (we actually had a date night without the kids) we bought it on the spot, paid too much but who cares, life is short.
When I took it riding by myself, I thought, what a dog. But after I got used to it (being slow) and put the pipe on it, I LOVE driving it, much better than my brothers Rhino. That thing feels like you are sitting in a skyscraper ready to tip over at any moment. It does have LOTS of power though.
#159
Hey Kell Im still here. Hardly ever mess with the Kart. I did change the oil the first time last night.Too busy restoring 3 WW2 jeeps and 2 viet nam era jeeps.
What have you done to your Kart to make faster. Where id iyou buy it and how much.
Thanks Eddie
What have you done to your Kart to make faster. Where id iyou buy it and how much.
Thanks Eddie
#160
You can tell its a slow day here at work,
http://www.eastsidems.com
I think they called it a hp kit, I called to make sure they had it in stock (which they didn't at the time)
I had to pay $286 including shipping, but I think they forgot to give me the 10 bucks off.
Got the pipe, intake with air cleaner and jet.
Now it takes off and climbs much better. Pretty pricey though.
You are welcome to ride it with the pipe to see if you think it is worth it, if you can catch us home!
You could probably make your own out of an 8N exhaust from Tractor supply (hey Ive put them on 4 wheelers before)
http://www.eastsidems.com
I think they called it a hp kit, I called to make sure they had it in stock (which they didn't at the time)
I had to pay $286 including shipping, but I think they forgot to give me the 10 bucks off.
Got the pipe, intake with air cleaner and jet.
Now it takes off and climbs much better. Pretty pricey though.
You are welcome to ride it with the pipe to see if you think it is worth it, if you can catch us home!
You could probably make your own out of an 8N exhaust from Tractor supply (hey Ive put them on 4 wheelers before)


