best utv
Jun 18, 2013 | 01:32 PM
#12
Pro Rider
Is old enough to know better, but too young to stop.
Is old enough to know better, but too young to stop.
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There is one on every thread.... Let me guess... you own a razor so it just has to be the best thing on the planet.... Well for one thing, those of us that are a little larger than the average pup find the razor to be too tight when riding with a friend or spouse, and they ride rough, can't do any work to speak of and generally are relegated to the group that enjoys a spirited ride. Not any of which I'd describe as traits of the "Best" side by side out there... but that is only my humble opinion. And I won't EVEN go into my dislikes of the Polaris brand based soley on their old time snowmobile effort. (From a former Ski-doo rider) Nope I stand on my previous statement that the person asking the question just has not provided enough data to make a decision. Not that he will take our advise and do his research. He'd rather push the easy button and listen to a bunch of yahoos who base decisions on SPEED, or the number of beers it can hold...
Jun 18, 2013 | 09:38 PM
#13
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sour grapes
actually I own 3 different types of utv and atv, so why the bitter outlook on all other opinions, yes I like the razor and would buy another tomorrow, sorry that irks you so much for liking them, yes I think its better you move on if your that negative, cheers grumble bum
Jun 19, 2013 | 10:38 AM
#14
Pro Rider
Is old enough to know better, but too young to stop.
Is old enough to know better, but too young to stop.
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From: Northern Virginia, near DC
Nothing personal
Nothing personal. I just get irked by people who 1) Ask what is the perfect machine, 2) which one should I buy etc. And 3) people who make a rash statement based soley on their own purchase decision and don't ask the pertinent questions. In this case, the guy obviously didn't do any homework and is asking someone like yourself for an opinion. How anyone is able to determine what is best for him without knowing how he intends to use it, where he will ride it, is speed more important than comfort etc. Freaking amazes me. If people are going to give advice, then base it on solid known data that comes from more experience than mashing on a gas pedal and slinging mud. Am I bitter? No. Do I have a real dislike for certain brands? Certainly. Everyone falls in that category in one way or another. People like this guy need to be pointed in a direction so they think about it before going off half cocked to the bike shop and putting a lot of money down on something that may be totally inappropriate for their needs. Some of us that have over 40 years in the industry will tell you, they are better off armed with knowledge than they are with opinion. Now if you had recommeded another brand or even another model within the Polaris line, I'd have probably agreed with you. But again, this is not the issue. The issue is if you are going to chime in, then give the guy info he can use and encourage him to do his research, make him think about what he will be using it for, and THEN and only let HIM decide on type and make/model. Not because you like your machine. Personally I don't have a need for a sport machine any more but at least I give them the benefit of the doubt. I've tried a razor. Found them too cramped and not capable of working. If you like it, and it meets your particular needs great. Go out and enjoy it. But do the person asking the question a favor. Don't cloud the issue with opinion unless they are directing their question towards speed/performance etc. or asking about Razors directly. Which clearly is not what was evident in his original thread. Otherwise you do them a disservice.
Jun 19, 2013 | 04:41 PM
#16
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Aw come on Moose... You know me well enough to know I don't go picking fights. This is a problem on just about every threads these days. It is real easy to spout off without engaging the brain. I suspect the original poster just was fishing anyway. An honest question deserves an honest and well thought out response. That is what I was pointing out.
Jun 19, 2013 | 06:24 PM
#17
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Nothing personal. I just get irked by people who 1) Ask what is the perfect machine, 2) which one should I buy etc. And 3) people who make a rash statement based soley on their own purchase decision and don't ask the pertinent questions. In this case, the guy obviously didn't do any homework and is asking someone like yourself for an opinion. How anyone is able to determine what is best for him without knowing how he intends to use it, where he will ride it, is speed more important than comfort etc. Freaking amazes me. If people are going to give advice, then base it on solid known data that comes from more experience than mashing on a gas pedal and slinging mud. Am I bitter? No. Do I have a real dislike for certain brands? Certainly. Everyone falls in that category in one way or another. People like this guy need to be pointed in a direction so they think about it before going off half cocked to the bike shop and putting a lot of money down on something that may be totally inappropriate for their needs. Some of us that have over 40 years in the industry will tell you, they are better off armed with knowledge than they are with opinion. Now if you had recommeded another brand or even another model within the Polaris line, I'd have probably agreed with you. But again, this is not the issue. The issue is if you are going to chime in, then give the guy info he can use and encourage him to do his research, make him think about what he will be using it for, and THEN and only let HIM decide on type and make/model. Not because you like your machine. Personally I don't have a need for a sport machine any more but at least I give them the benefit of the doubt. I've tried a razor. Found them too cramped and not capable of working. If you like it, and it meets your particular needs great. Go out and enjoy it. But do the person asking the question a favor. Don't cloud the issue with opinion unless they are directing their question towards speed/performance etc. or asking about Razors directly. Which clearly is not what was evident in his original thread. Otherwise you do them a disservice.
Jun 20, 2013 | 11:07 PM
#20
Range Rover
Joined: Sep 2011
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From: Ohio
Nothing personal. I just get irked by people who 1) Ask what is the perfect machine, 2) which one should I buy etc. And 3) people who make a rash statement based soley on their own purchase decision and don't ask the pertinent questions. In this case, the guy obviously didn't do any homework and is asking someone like yourself for an opinion. How anyone is able to determine what is best for him without knowing how he intends to use it, where he will ride it, is speed more important than comfort etc. Freaking amazes me. If people are going to give advice, then base it on solid known data that comes from more experience than mashing on a gas pedal and slinging mud. Am I bitter? No. Do I have a real dislike for certain brands? Certainly. Everyone falls in that category in one way or another. People like this guy need to be pointed in a direction so they think about it before going off half cocked to the bike shop and putting a lot of money down on something that may be totally inappropriate for their needs. Some of us that have over 40 years in the industry will tell you, they are better off armed with knowledge than they are with opinion. Now if you had recommeded another brand or even another model within the Polaris line, I'd have probably agreed with you. But again, this is not the issue. The issue is if you are going to chime in, then give the guy info he can use and encourage him to do his research, make him think about what he will be using it for, and THEN and only let HIM decide on type and make/model. Not because you like your machine. Personally I don't have a need for a sport machine any more but at least I give them the benefit of the doubt. I've tried a razor. Found them too cramped and not capable of working. If you like it, and it meets your particular needs great. Go out and enjoy it. But do the person asking the question a favor. Don't cloud the issue with opinion unless they are directing their question towards speed/performance etc. or asking about Razors directly. Which clearly is not what was evident in his original thread. Otherwise you do them a disservice.
HUH? I'm pretty sure discussions like this are nothing but OPINIONS. You need to lighten up.
